For the people that read the article, do you think its true? http://www.bruceongames.com/2008/06/10/is-the-gpu-holding-the-ps3-back/
There might be some truth in the article but by looking at ingame footage of MGS 4 I dont think so...
I am not an expert or anything, but i am sick tired to read articles that try to prove that 360 is better than PS3. Especially from people, that they either are working for MS, or are bought off from MS to write staff like this, or they just dont have anything better to do in their life's. and to the bottom of this, same s**t was all around with PS2 and a couple of years back we saw God of War, and every one was surprised. If game studios want to output nice graphs they can.
yea, I read half way through the article the other day and became disgusted. its not an article, its a blog. Tell me that same crap tomorrow after I pick up MGS4. We'll see what system has the better graphics. Stupid fanboys...
That article has absolutely no proof to support his "findings" and what little information he provides is outdated (2005,2006). He basically finds some old info to support his opinionated biased blog reporting. If you want to read more that proves what he is about go here and look at some of these replies Hell some of the stuff comes right back here to aD as reference. But this guy clearly does not know what he is talking about and has been viewed as "outside the age of real gamers" and only posting negatives about Sony products while praising MS products. That is where the problem lies, his bias is clear since he does not show true factual supportive evidence combined with what has been shown in his post history as well as posting his blog as REAL news only to get hits....pretty weak in my opinion.
Well I wouldn't be surprised if tsomethign like this was true. I've got a PS3 and I'v eloving GTA4 right now. But I am also angry at Sony for ripping us off. Removal of hardware emulation replaced with software, 40GB having only PS1 emulation. No 80GB console in europe, even though they have stopped selling 60GB ones! Making the first european consoles inferior to the same US and Jap consoles and yet selling for a higher price. And no Dualshock being added as standard. Sony have a lot to answer for but right now all they care about is profits rather than consumers.
Exactly! That's the problem with this age of blogging. It's great that people have taken an interest in writing but most of the time the columns/blogs are poorly written. Furthermore, in this case, there's no support to any of his claims. Trash!
how can you say they dont care about there consumers, im on my 4th 360 now and it throws red rings every second day and i have to rap it in a towel for 30 min to get it to work bc my warranty ended, and i've had my ps3 since launch day (60gig) i hav yet to hav a single problem with it, it already outlasted my 360 by 4x its life length, this is an age old battle nvidia n Ati they both hav there ups and downs nuthings perfect.
Um what does ANY of that have to with the topic at hand? Though I don't see how it is Sony's fault that people didn't buy the more capable PS3's when they where available? It is not Sony's fault that people waited for prices to drop and by doing so they got what was available.
The one thing about the ps3 that throws me off is that it only has 512 ram, while the 360 has 1 gig. I know the cell processor is more powerful so wouldn't that require more ram or dose it use it differently/more efficiently? I've wanted a ps3 for a while, but with the way that GTA 4 turned out and the lack of exclusives the only real draw it has left is the quality of the hardware. At the same time the 360 is still appealing because of the older library of games that are $30 or less. There aren't many ps3 games under 50-60. I just can't shake the feeling that no matter which way I go I'm screwed, RROD or far and few between overpriced games.
Well first of all the European launch of the PS3 was delayed. So we didnt wait for prices to drop, we waited for Sony to manufacture more inferior consoles which they could sell in the european markets for a greater price. Its not just Sony, everything in europe ends up being sold at rippoff prices compared to the same item being sold in the US. And those who did wait for a price drop ended up with the choice of a 40GB console and a...40GB console. No 60GB console and no 80GB to replace the 60GB which they stopped producing.
i concur. Mostly when browsing internet with say 4 windows and if one has say too many photos then it locks it up. compared to having streaming multiple videos on a 512MB ram pc and even then not noticing anything...
Indeed, and it isn't like ram costs a lot to manufacture, if there was a way to solder on more ram to the ps3 mobo like with the original xbox I'd do it.
I don't know where you got your info but the 360 does not have 1 gig of ram. It has the same 512 megs as the PS3. But again I ask what does this have to do with the topic at hand people?
Well you pretty much blew the original "problem" out of the water so I figured I'd just bring up what actually is holding the PS3 back. Oh and the PS3 only has 256 megs, the 360 has 512 megs. The ram was the only thing stopping a few companies from using PS3's as cheap supercomputers, the PS2 had the same issue.
I remember browsing prices online a few weeks back and on several sites the amount of ram was listed. In hindsight probably not the most reliable source of information. As for the topic at hand well this thread is about a possible gpu bottleneck. I thought a lack of ram would serve as a bottleneck as well, holding the cell processor back. I wasn't trying to jack the thread, just curious if anyone else had any thoughts on the subject. As I said before I had bad info and I stand corrected i'll make sure to get my info from more reliable sources next time.
My point is that Sony skimped in some placed to make a cheaper console and hence that is what has held the PS3 back.
Ah my bad I didnt know it could access both for one use. But only the rsx can access 100% of the ram then and the system can only use the 256 megs.
