Gran Turismo 4

i think that the GT disc by sony is double layer
1 layer containing the 2.51 gb and
2nd layer contain the rest in order to play it
so i'm thinkin we need something that will copy layer for layer.? just maybe

 

Heard it is Double Layer with one layer written in one direction and the second written in the other direction...

 

Yo @ all,
did some1 tried the prog DVDFab Platinum, it says that it copies DVD9 1:1....
cheers,
d.c.

 

i just broke down and bought the damn thing , compusa had it for 37.99.

 

Hello, i was going to burn friends copy of gran turismo 4 but the i got the image but its over 4.7 gig and i have to return the disk, so should i just make image with nero and then when fix comes out will i be able to burn the image?

 

It's people like you who give up, and don't get us closer to a working rip! You're a disgrace!

Just kidding. Haha.
They had it for $37.99? That's a good price.

I'm thinking of laying down the cash for this game too. It's really good, it's probably worth the full $50.

 

thats what i was thinking...im just gunna buy the game! its sucha amazing game to buy!

 

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=316983&pfp=BROWSE

 

Damn... 37.99 is an awesome price. Oh well I traded in 4 GC games for it.

 

you know whats funny...thinking that the makers of gt4 and sony are laughing at us now, because we can't burn the d***** game. we end up having to buy it or turn in games for that particular game... i just went ahead and bought the game also. can't find my self wasting dl dvds at $8.33 a dvd

 

i tried backing up gt 4 using a $7 memorex dl disc and it did not work. i do not think this game can be backed up but i may try the other two discs in the 3 pack which was 21 bucks down the drain. i think we should boycott gt 4 or at least wait until they sell it for 20 dollars.

 

They probably are laughing at us right now.
But I have a suggestion, and some questions.

How is PTP burned?
I know that it's filled from the inside out, and from the outside in for the second layer. Would it be at all possible to simply burn that second layer in backwards?

I mean, have a way using either a format or dummy files to fill in the outside, and then burn in backwards the data for the second layer?

Technically, this could be done using brute force. I mean, as a programmer, I don't have the knowledge to be able to do this, but couldn't you technically simply write a program that reads the last binary bit, first and output it into a file?

Then you burn it at the beginning of the inner layer.
You know, I might be able to do this myself, but it might be totally unnecessary to do this if someone can manage to get it down to a DVD5.

I mean, the full game is only about 600MB over the DVD limit.

 

has anyone tried dual layer dvd w/ alcohol 120? thats what ive backed up all my games with and have had no errors. the only problem i have is finding out what the disc id is so i cant play my backups online.

 

The game is definitely worth buying. It's just plain amazing. Paying for 1 out of 200 isn't bad lol.

 

The problems stay when using Alcohol, I've tried but no succes... I think a software patch will be required to get the game to run on a copied DVD.

I think the problem is the location of certasin files on the DVD and I do not think this can be burned by local DVD writers. So i guess a new index file for this protection is requierd......


suggestions anybody?

 

hell all,

i just bought gran turismo 4 at wal-mart last night and so far the game is bad a$$. ive been reading this thread so i was quite disapointed when i heard its unburnable.

the videos in it are absolutly fantasic. can barley tell its computer generated. anyways here is some info, i dont know if its usful to anyone. but i burned an image using alcohol 120 and mounted it and here is what dvddecryptor had to say about the orginal disk:

PLEXTOR DVDR PX-712A 1.06 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD-ROM

Disc Information:
Status: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 2,594,960
Size: 5,314,478,080 bytes
Time: 576:41:35 (MM:SS:FF)

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Book Type: DVD-ROM
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: 10.08Mbps
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 1,513,663
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

and this is wut dvddecryptor said about the mounted image of gt4:

AXV CD/DVD-ROM 2.2a (SCSI)
Current Profile: DVD-ROM

Disc Information:
Status: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 2,594,960
Size: 5,314,478,080 bytes
Time: 576:41:35 (MM:SS:FF)

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Book Type: DVD-ROM
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: 10.08Mbps
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 1,513,663
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

so it looks identical.

anydvd and dvddecryptor can't find anysort of "protection" so i think its just the ptp thats jacking it all up. not some "protection" and until some1 rips it. we will all have to wait for ptp dvd-r DL recorders to come out.

p.s. this is the u.s. version of gt4. pm me if i can provide you guy/girls with anymore info.

carl.


p.s.s.

There are two ways of writing the DVD data layers: parallel track path (PTP) and opposite track path (OTP). In PTP discs both layers read from the inside of the disc to the outside, whereas in an OTP disc the outer layer reads from the inside to out, and then back in for the inner layer. This allows the drive to read both layers almost continuously, with only a short break to refocus the pickup lens. This is especially useful for DVD movies, where long play time without interruption is needed.

 

Oh my God, please someone shoot me in the head...

Dude, DVDFab is meant to make copies of DVD [bold]movies[/bold]. There's no way on earth it could make copies of PS2 games.

Damn, I'm a newbie too, but at least before posting a comment I do some homework.

 

Sega was laughing at us because we couldn't backup Dreamcast games, Nintendo was laughing at us because we couldn't backup GC games... until we could.

 

Yeah right, selling a game that cannot be pirated, thus that prevents pirates from stealing money from honest hard working people, that's SO against the human rights...

 

Pure Evilness i cant seem to read the 21st page of this thread, is this afterdawn hyding the secret to copy protection of GT4 or just my browser being gay...anyhoo was wondering if the CD/DVD Gen merge layers, downsample, split discs, etc method (Xenosaga)would work on GT4 sorry if this has already been mensioned but i forgot the first 10 pages by the time i read the 15th page