Managed to copy Grudge 2 using AnyDvd 22.214.171.124 and CloneDvd 126.96.36.199.Anydvd and the shrink combo will not work. This is the reading for Anydvd Status: Summary for drive D: (AnyDVD 188.8.131.52) HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4241N 1.04 ABICA04/07/20 Drive (Hardware) Region: 1 Media is a Data DVD. Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 2 (opposite) Size of first Layer: 2084960 sectors (4072 MBytes) Total size: 4169920 sectors (8144 MBytes) Video DVD (or CD) label: Grudge 2 (Unrated) Media is CSS protected! Video Standard: NTSC Media is locked to region(s): 1! RCE protection not found. DVD structure appears to be correct. Found & removed structural copy protection (Arccos, Puppetlock)! Found & removed bogus title set! Found & removed Autorun from Video DVD! Found & removed 43 bad sector protections! Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 1! Just when You think You Seen Alot of bad dvd structures...Happy Burning People. BTW You can get a full back up with the programs mention above.