Sorry lads jusd checked back today. I got the problem sorted. This problem was with a friends box and i discovered he had the first june 5th N2 fix still on his usb drive. While trying to playback a recorded program he must have restored his box to this firmware as the system information gave version 1.10 june 5th. I reflashed with the june 23rd??? fix (Think thats the date) and all is back to normal. So anyone discovering they have no BBC UTV etc check system info in the menu screen and make sure you still have the "fixed fix" june 23rd installed.