HD basic cable?

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  1. Freekman

    Freekman Regular member

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    so i have a pc with this TV tuner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815260007

    and my question has a few parts:
    1. if i split my cable that goes to my cablevision tuner, to my pc will i get basic cable on my PC
    2. will it be digital and HD or will i need to get something else for that
    3. will this be legal and not abuse any TOU
    4. is this thread in the right section
     
  2. Icanbe

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    1. Yes you will
    2. Depends if you have an HD box or digital cable.
    3. Not sure
     
  3. Mick3844

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    If you split the cable before the cable box and run a coax to the PC, you will only get the analog channels (if there are any) from the cable provider. This PC card only has the NTSC (analog), and ATSC (digital) OTA receivers (according to the Newegg link you have posted). To get digital from the cable provider you need a QAM receiver. If the PC card is capable of decoding HD signals then you will have HD.
     
  4. Freekman

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    well i tried it out and i got 60 channels none of which where hd even though card says it should be able to decode it and my service is io from cablevision btw
    the channels didn't even look digital
     
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    To get digital channels from your cable provider it would need a QAM receiver.
    You are probably only seeing the analog channels for Basic/Extended Basic none of which are digital.
    The PC card can only receive digital channels from an antenna, not from cable.
     
  6. Freekman

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    well then those things are pretty expensive, so what antennae should i get if i live in 10533, also will i still need the qam reciever after feburary also how does it know tht the input is cable and not antena, if i just switch it to antena will it get all of the digital and hd
     
  7. Mick3844

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    How far are you from the TV tower (towers)? All of the current digital (ATSC) broadcasts (over the air using an antenna, not a cable/satellite provider) are using UHF frequencies (after the switchover next month some may use the VHF (2-13) frequencies).
    So you can use any normal TV antenna that has been used in the past for analog TV signals as long as it has a UHF (the V shape on it's side) component, or if you are close enough rabbit ears will work just fine (some adjustment may be necessary after channel changing). Also things may change after the switch next month as TV stations find they need to use more power.
    If you have a lot of big trees between you and the TV stations you might have trouble with reception.
    Here is an explanation of the different receivers
    NTSC: receives and decodes (understands) analog signals.
    Analog signals are the same over the air, or on a cable TV provider.
    ATSC: receives and decodes (understands) digital over the air signals.
    Digital signals can be different.
    QAM: receives digital signals on a cable tv provider.
     
  8. Freekman

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    aaaahhh this is so complicated i want to see both my options, so what is a good affordable qam
     
  9. Mick3844

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    For your PC I assume. Look at these PC Cards, they all have the 3 receivers (ATSC, QAM, NTSC).
     
  10. Freekman

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    i feel like i am waisting the tv tuner i already have, but if it comes down to it i will get one of those, what format wire do most antennaes use?
     
  11. Mick3844

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    I thought you were going to connect your cable tv to the computer?

    If you connect an antenna your current pc card will receive digital tv signals. You only need a different pc card to get the cable tv signals. Remember that there is no guarantee that your cable tv is sending you digital channels.

    Most antenna/cable inputs are coax to the 'RF' connection (Antenna In, or From Antenna). If the antenna you decide to use has 2 wires you can get an adapter to change it to coax cable.
     
  12. Freekman

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    okay well i am close to positive that cablevision is providing digital cable, as i have a digital receiver from them, and it has to be by February anyways, so i am gonna wait a few weeks before i take any action, but here is a simple breakdown of what i want to do
    i want HD DIGITAL basic cable without any monthly fees and as efficient(low cost high quality) as possible
     
  13. Icanbe

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    The only wait you will get HD for free is with a HDTV antenna so you can get OTA (over the air) stations.

    The card you have does support over the air signals, go pick up a HDTV antenna, they are inexpensive.
    Other than that you will have to subscribe to HD with your local cable supplier.
     
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    o yeah i forgot to mention that as part of my cable package the customer service rep said that me splitting the cable before the cablevision box would supply my other tv with digital and hd channels
     
  15. Mick3844

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    Freekman
    I have a basic digital programming package from Comcast with NO HD. I connected the cable with out a box to a new TV with a built in QAM receiver, and it gets all of the local channels (ABC/CBS/FOX/NBC/PBS)in HD, if they are broadcasting a HD program. The same programs that I receive OTA in HD. The cable companies don't want you to know this so that you will pay them more for HD.
    All of the other digital/HD channels (ESPN/Food Network, etc.) will be scrambled so that you need their HDBox to see them.
     
  16. Freekman

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    ya that is what i knew i just am having trouble deciding to get a qam or an antenna or an all in one pc card i am sort of leaning towards the qam/all in one
     
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    I hope that I have helped you with this problem.

    Mick
     
  18. elaine101

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    The PC card can only receive digital channels from an antenna, not from cable.
     
  19. Freekman

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    that is weird thanks for thew help though
     

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