Okay I've installed my cdrw drive from my old computer into my new one and I am able to burn to cd-rw just fine, it will not recognize a cd-r of any brand ( so far I've tried Maxell, Philips, Aopen, and generic ) I'm upgraded to the latest firmware 4.0 ASPI APIX.VXD 4.0(952) WNASPI32.DLL 1.0 I'm running under windows ME Philips wanted to charge me $20/hr to help me They suggested to use google, and here I am now_X_X_X_X_X_[small]Celeron 1.7GHz MSI 845 MAX-L (bios updated 1-10-2003) MSI G4MX460-VTP (TVout/videoin) (bios 1-10-2003) 256MB PC2400 DDR 60GB IBM DESKSTAR (7,200RPM) TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1402(32x nero drive speed) Philips PCRW1208 cdr/w CODEGEN 300W PSU Windows ME [/small]