Yeah I was just going tell you about that too bad I didn't see your post sooner. I just ran in to a similiar problem. I was using dvd shrink the old or new version doesn't matter. I used nero to burn with and I was using verbatim dvd-r and burned about 30 copies successfully. Well ran out of dvd's so there was a good deal on dvd+r at office depot. I made one successful dvd+r and the second was a coaster, so I'm going to look into the media hopefully I didn't just spend 100 bones on junk media.