help newbie setting up home networking

hi i read some of networking forums on here but i cant seem to get mine working
could someone help me this is my first time attempt to hook up network and im not sure how to do it
please be kine
ok i have 2 pc(windows xp) and im using a crossover network cable. i try the networking wizard and it still dont work
1st pc:
ip address 67.161.181.245
subnet mask 255.255.254.0
default gateway 67.161.180.1
dhcp server 12.242.19.34
dns servers 204.127.199.8
63.240.76.198
if im not post to put those up there please tell me what to earse

2nd pc:
i have no clue what to do with this
i just want to hook up tcp/ip and files sharing
if u need more info. please ask
thank

 

thats odd because I set up a network with xp and it was a doddle the only problem I have had since was a funny inc card

if ya tel Me what inc cards ya using and whether or not anything is working, will help you out

firstly I would put both pc's in the same room and get the network going that way first saves running in n out off rooms

 

on my first pc i have 2 nic card

1. 1394 Net Adapter
ip address: unavailable
subnet mask: unavailable
default gateway: unavailable

2. Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC
ip address 67.161.181.245
subnet mask 255.255.254.0
default gateway 67.161.180.1
dhcp server 12.242.19.34
dns servers 204.127.199.8
63.240.76.198

and on my 2nd pc i have 1 nic card

1. HP en1207D-TX PCI 10/100 fast Ethernet adapter
ip address: 169.254.236.156
subnet mask: 255.255.0.0

i enable all the card and they work but i dunno how to hook it up

 

Well, it appears that your first PC has one NIC. The 1394 adapter is a firewire port.

What kind of Internet connection do you have? If you have a broadband connection such as Cable or DSL, you should probably go get yourself a small, inexpensive router, one with several LAN ports.
This will provide you with your own private subnet to connect your PCs to. It eliminates the need to open your computer to add a 2nd NIC, and provides a very basic NAT firewall. You will also be able to use a standard patch cable and ditch the crossover.

 

what does 1394 adapter do?
could u tell me because i have no clue what it for

 

hears a heads up for you dzdragon is the 1394 adapter upon your motherboard as an inc card or is it seperate if it is like Mine it is on the motherboard and I tried for days to network this way to no avail. I it just an ordinary inc card so the networking pc had 2 inc cards in plus the 1394 adapter I Ignored the adapter and went via a 2nd inc card and it worked great

hope that helps

DaOsT

 

In order to network the pcs together, they have to be on the same network - a private range would be 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0 and 192.168.0.2 255.255.255.0 for the second. The IP address that you listed is one that is registered to a large cable provider per ARIN.

You should be able to manually assign IPs on both PCs to the addresses I listed above. Connect the crossover and they should be networked, test connectivity by pinging the others address. This gets them networked but not on the internet. In order to do that you would have to add a second network card to one, not the 1394 connection, that is a firewire port. On the one that has 2 network cards, set the one connected to the internet to get an address automatically and enable internet connection sharing on it. Assign the other network card in the first pc 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0. On the second PC assign it 192.168.0.2 255.255.255.0 and give it a default gateway of the internal network address of the other pc - 192.168.0.1. Also assign the DNS entries manually for it, using the entries from the first pc - 204.127.199.8 and 63.240.76.198.

Thats how you do it, using one pc as a dual homed host, but it is really a lot simpler to just get a router.

 

1394 FireWire is similar in some respects to USB. It is mainly used as a high speed connection for peripheral equipment (camcorders, external HD, external CD / DVD)

Xian has provided good information regarding getting the two computers talking, but he sums it up perfectly at the end. Get yourself an inexpensive Cable/DSL router, and save yourself the hassles.

 

i am really thankful all of you guys help
now it up to me to make it work ^^

good luck to me

 

Hi again ^^ I ran into another problem
Thank for the network help but now my internet don’t work on my second pc
Here my first pc status on nic card

1.Internet Status
Ip address 24.7.153.2
Subnet mask 255.255.248.0
Default gateway 24.7.152.1
Dns server 216.148.227.68
204.127.202.4
On this one
When I try to share it say
“When Internet Connection Sharing is enabled, your lan adapter will be set to use IP address 192.168.0.1. Your computer may lose connectivity with other computers on your network. If these other computers have static IP addresses, you should set them to obtain their IP addresses automatically. Are you sure you want to enable internet connection sharing?"
i click ok and this error pop up
“An error occurred while internet connection sharing was being enabled. The dependency service or group failed to start”
I not very sure what to do here, Im scare I might do sumthing wrong so please help

2. Networking Status
Ip address 192.168.0.1
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0

Here the second pc status
1.Networking Status
Ip address 192.168.0.2
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Default gateway 24.7.152.1
Dns server 216.148.227.68
204.127.202.4

Please help
If u need more info please tell me

 

Set your default gateway on the 2nd PC to 192.168.0.1. I asssume you have it connected to the first PC's network card with the 192.168.0.1 address.

For the error trying to enable ICS check:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=827328

 

Xian thank you so very much for your help
my networking and internet are working perfectly
so...happy

thank you again ^^

 

hey xian could u help me again?
for some reason some of my game server dont work no more
none of my friend could connect to my ip address anymore and i notice my ip change, is it my lan??
how do i fix this?

 

You will need to do some port forwarding to get servers to work. ICS uses NAT, which translates an address on your private network to a public address that you get from your ISP. 192.168.x.x is not routable on the internet, it is only used for private networks. NAT translates that range to the public address on your cable modem/dsl. Port forwarding sends the ports you specify to your internal network. If you are runnning a firewall you will need to open the ports on it too.

What happens is that people on the internet see your public ip assigned by your ISP. When they try to connect to it, there is not a server running at that ip. They can't connect to the private IP that the server is running on since the private IP is not routable. Take FTP for an example, the default port for it is 21. If you have an FTP server on your private network and want people from outside to get to it you will have to forward TCP port 21. They try to log on to your public IP's port 21 and fail since the server is not running at that IP but if you forward that port to the pc that is running the server they would be able to connect.

I couldn't find a page on Windows XP, but 2000 might be similar in setting it up:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows200...professional/help/howto_share_conn_config.htm

This site lists some common ports used by games:
http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto/game-behind-router.asp

I haven't tried this, but there is a program that supposed to help you with the port mappings for XP at this site:
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/ics/icsconfiguration.htm

 

A simple home network:

5 Pc's. Connect aD-Link Wirelss Broadband Router to your main PC. Connect wireless cards to the rest of your PC's. Connect internet to the wireless broadband. Load the XP home network section on Control pannel, netwrok connections and create a floppy disc. Connect ur printer/scanner, etc to main computer. Install created floppy disc on all other computers - wayhey - it works. No need to alter IP settings or subnet mask (should be constant) unless you want to specify an order in which the network operates.

 

thank again
you guys are kind and helpful
now that i dont have comcast cable
i switch to sbc dsl
because i dont have enough money for cable anymore so i need help again
i did everything the same but the have the same dns ip
DNS Servers: 192.168.0.1
192.168.0.1
when i try to setup on the other pc it wont let me
and when i try to share internet the dsl wont work

is there a way around this or a program to trick the pc inorder to make it work??
here my status
ip address: 67.114.223.24
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
default 67.114.223.25
DHCP server 192.168.0.1
DNS server 192.168.0.1
192.168.0.1

 

First check that the network connection to the DSL is set to get an IP automatically. Then on the PC with the DSL type ipconfig /all in a command window. That will show you the settings you get through DHCP from your ISP. 1921.68.0.1 is a private IP so that should not be your DNS server. I guess you still have a second connection on that one with an IP of 192.168.0.1 That should be okay as long as that is the connection to your 2nd computer. On the 2nd computer assign it 192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 with a default gateway of 192.168.0.1 and the same DNS server as the DSL connnection.

A router would still be the simplest solution. All you have to do with it is set everything to get an ip automatically, not all this manual configurtion.

 

here what in the command prompt

connection-spacific DNS Suffix ....domain_not_set.invalid

rnet NIC
Dhcp Enabled....yes
autoconfig enabled....yes
ip address....64.165.69.16
subnet mask....255.255.255.0
default gateway....64.165.69.17
DHCP Server....192.168.0.1
DNS Servers....192.168.0.1
192.168.0.1

hmm... still the same T-T
i would get a router but not right now i down on cash

 

That doesn't look right for the dns server. I think you will have to call your isp and get the correct ones. You can always try to manually put one in, 4.2.2.2 is an easy one to rememer but it really isn't your isp's server.

 

i have a problem too. i have 2 pcs and i have a network router- my dsl modem is in the "uplink" outlet on the router, and then there are 4 outputs for computers- i have the CAT5 cables going out of it to each pc- they can both use the internet- but i cant get them networked. XP on both pcs and the wizards dont work. nothing i try works.