I need opinions/advice about next step in trying to fix my problem. I am not having any luck getting my dvd players to play my burned dvds. I have a cyberhome chdvd 300(crappy, I know) and a sony hcd s300. The cyberhome always says bad disc when I try a burned disc that is a full backup(menus, and extras), when I try a burned disc that just has the main movie, it will sort of pause while playing, sometimes starting to play again. With the Sony I get the C:13:00 error, which I looked up and found out a lot of sonys get that error. I use smartripper or dvd decrypter to rip, dvd shrink, sometimes imgtool to make the iso, and dvd decrypter to burn. Media used is Imation(ritekg03) and maxell, both are dvd-r. I bought the maxell today hoping the imation discs were the problem and still no luck. The dvd burner is a Lite On, burning at slowest speed possible. Mostly only needed programs are running on my pc, which is a p4 2.8g, 512 mb ddr ram, and windows xp. Would like the advice of more experienced users as to what step to take next because I am frustrated. If you need more information than what I have provided, just let me know. Thanks for your help in advance!!
I recommend useing good, high quality dvd+r media and booktyping them to dvd-rom (most compatable format). Almost all lite-on dvdrw's are capable of doing this. Here is a link to the lite-on booktype utility that will automatically booktype dvd+r/rw media to dvd-rom once you set it to do so. There is also a user guide on the page. http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=83441 Note: you can only booktype dvd+r/rw media not dvd-r/rw media to dvd-rom. Excessive compression can also cause playback problems even on good media. Media to stay away from is memorex, HP, phillips, TDK+r, no name brands, and retail store branded media eg. staples, compusa, office depot. Good media is verbatum, taiyo yuden, sony, fuji (made in japan), and usually maxell and branded ritek ridata's. Mort
Mort81, Thanks for the help, I will give that a try Monday and post a reply on whether it works or not.
I agree with Mort81 on this one. It is extremely important to have your dvd movies back up on top quality medias only. I second Mort81 that good medias are Taiyo Yuden (including 8X DVD+R Fuji & Sony "Made In Japan"), Maxell (8X DVD+R Made In Japan) and Verbatim. I, too, would prefer any of the DVD+R Made In Japan over any DVD-R anytime and anyday. With that being said, I can back up all of them by book typing them into a DVD-ROM format easily, and this will play in all of my stand alone dvd players flawlessly.
Alkohol, Thanks for a reply. A quick question or two, is there any particular speed or country to look for in Verbatim? Am I right that I probably will not find any TY discs in local B&M's? The Maxell dvd-r that I purchased (from walmart before I started this thread) were made in some other country than japan, is that going to be typical with most media at walmart? Any particular B&M that I should go to first Again, thanks for the help.
@cutlau, I'm lost at trying to understand what is B&M? Care to tell me what is this, so I can help more? As for Verbatim, I hardly use their stuff, but their older stocks that has "Made In Singapore" on the package is a top notch media. However, it will be a super tough and or extremely rare to find one with "Made In Singapore", now-a-days you're likely to find them "Made In Taiwan" or other places that made Verbatim's media. Don't worry though, they're still top notch and its quality is still as high as before. Just make sure to look/check with Nero InfoTool and DVD Decrypter on the blank disc (Verbatim) to make sure the id code is something like "MCC003" then you should be alright. In addition, if you want their (Verbatim's 2.4X DVD+R DL) media, then I highly recommend you to check for "Made In Singapore" on the package. I've backed up 30 Verbatim 2.4 DVD+R DL successfully without any glitch whatsoever. In regards to TY(Yuden), you can probably get them online for a big batch i.e 50 packs or 100 packs at "newegg.com, meritline.com, or supermediastore.com" since these are pretty famous and is the most mentioned online stores by the majority of members here at AfterDawn.com. However, if you want to get them (Yuden) at your local Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Circuit City, etc. then you can grab the 8X DVD+R FUJI or SONY (and make sure it says "Made In Japan") on the package or spindle. That is Taiyo Yuden right there, as a matter of fact, it's made by YUDEN. As for Maxell, I prefer the 8X DVD+R (id code: MAXELL-002-00, made from "Hitachi" Japan) and like I've mentioned earlier, just make sure to look for "Made In Japan" on the package or spindle if you're shopping at your local Wal-Mart or Best Buy, then you should be all square away. That is infact, one high grade quality media that you'll ever find in the market.
hummm alkohol wander where you learned this from LOL and thats correct info.Taiyo Yuden or Verbatium either or is great blank media. and heres a great deal on Taiyo Yuden 200 pack plus 200 white sleves for 68 bucks total and THAT inculdes shipping alkohol http://supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-4x-dvd-r-media-silver-matte-spindles-100.html and the Verbatiums are 25 bucks a 100 thats a great deal also http://supermediastore.com/verbatim-8x-dvd-plus-r-94968-100.html plus shipping on that one though
Alkohol, B&M = [bold]B[/bold]rick [bold]& M[/bold]ortar stores Sorry to confuse you, I thought B&M was a standard internet abbreviation. I think you pretty much answered those questions without knowing what that was. Thanks
cutlau, alkohol and aabbccdd don't have any idea what they're talking about (only kidding). Actually they gave very good advice. Although I doubt you would have any problems with the good medias we recommended I would buy a smaller package (25 or 30 pk) 1st prior to 50 or 100 pk just to be sure they work with your set up. You won't find any verbatums made in japan, they are made in taiwan but they're all I use and I never have any playback issues with them. Those sony's and fuji's shoudn't give you any problems either just make sure they say made in japan on the wrapper or box. Let me know how the bitsetting works for you and if you have any problems. Mort
Humm.... care to "educate" me on this one? Perhaps, I should make it clear and take out the (s) from the 100 pack, and newegg.com. However, www.newegg.com does has some genuine Fuji 8X DVD+R on sales. According to my understanding, regardless if you're shopping online or at your local Wal-Mart or Best Buy, just make sure to get one with "Made In Japan" then that's Taiyo Yuden right there.
I updated the firmware for my liteon drive and the ran the booktype utility. Do I need to run the utility for every dvd I burn or does it change the drive?
That depends on the model lite-on you have. All 8x and 16x drives should stay at whatever booktype you set it at. Some early 4x drives saved the setting in volatile memory and had to be set for each burn. You can verify that the booktype is dvd-rom with dvd identifier after disc is burned. Here's a link. http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/ Mort
The model that I have is LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-411S and firmware DR4FS0K. If there is somehow that I can find out let me know where.
Here ya go. As of mid-April 2004, all of the latest LiteOn half-height drives and firmwares support bitsetting! Unfortunately, none of LiteOn's slimline drives (internal laptop drives) currently support bitsetting. Here are the firmwares where certain LiteOn drives first started to officially support bitsetting. Any of these firmwares and any firmwares released after them will support bitsetting... Code: LITE-ON DVD+RW LDW-401S ES0K 2004/02/13 15:52 LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-411S FS0G 2003/12/17 20:15 LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-811S HS0J 2003/12/16 14:55 LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-451S GSB7 2004/01/15 10:53 LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-851S GS0A 2003/12/15 14:58 LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-812S US0J 2004/04/14 11:17 Q: [DVD-Writers] How do I use bitsetting (change the booktype) with LiteOn drives? A: With a few exceptions (e.g., the SOHW-802S and the SOHW-822S), bitsetting on LiteOn drives and rebadged LiteOn drives work like this: There is a setting stored in the drive's memory that tells the drive what booktype to use whenever it burns a disc. By default, this setting is set to "Normal" (i.e., keep +R discs as +R and +RW discs as +RW). The official LiteOn BookType Utility can be used to change this setting. Because all burns will be burned using the current setting, once you change the setting, all subsequent burns will be burned using the new setting without the need to take any further action. On the screen of this tool, "Current Disc Type" represents the physical disc type of the inserted disc. "Current Disc Booktype" represents the current booktype written on the disc, or if the disc is not written, it will display the current physical disc type. Hint: You can use this to check the booktype of a burned disc. "Change booktype to" is a bit misleading, and it represents the current booktype setting of the drive. Selecting a different setting from the drop-down and clicking "Change" is what changes the current drive setting. Remember, as mentioned above, the current drive setting simply represents what booktype will be used the next time a disc is burned. The "Write Now" button is only for DVD+RW media and is explained in a later bullet. There is, however, one important caveat. For a number of the older drives/firmwares, this setting is stored in volatile memory and is lost whenever the drive is reset (system reboot, firmware flash, etc.). Thus, when the drive is reset, the booktype setting will revert to the default setting (i.e., "Normal"). For people who want all of their discs to be booktyped, this causes a problem because they will need to remember to change the setting every time the drive resets. OmniPatcher's auto-bitsetting patch changes this default setting from "Normal" to "DVD-ROM" so that when a drive is reset, the setting will revert to "DVD-ROM" instead of to "Normal." Since auto-bitsetting only changes the default setting that the drive reverts to after a reset, it is still possible to use the LiteOn BookType Utility to change the settings around on a drive with a patched auto-bitsetting firmware. For the newer firmwares (CS07 or newer, BS0R or newer, and BS41 or newer, to name just a few) that use non-volatile memory (i.e., the EEPROM) to store the setting, the booktype setting is not lost after a reset, and as such, it does not make any sense to have a patch that changes the default revert-to-after-reset setting, and the auto-bitsetting patch is thus not available for these newer firmwares. For these newer firmwares, just set the booktype once using the official utility and forget about it, even after reboots. Because changing the booktype involves writing data to a disc, it is not possible to change the booktype of a recordable disc after it has been burned. For rewritable media, however, it is possible to change the booktype of burned media by using the LiteOn BookType Utility's "Write Now" button, if your firmware is new enough to support this feature.
Just to let people know some of the new Sony 8X made in Japan are turning out to be D11's. I got some at Sams thinking for sure they were TO2s. Still quality disks but now you know.
Mort81, Alkohol, AABBCCDD, [bold]Success,[/bold] My first burn with your suggestions has been a success so far. I purchased Sony 8x (Made in Japan - id code: Yuden000-T02-000) at walmart and it works with that. I also purchased some Maxell 8x (Made in Japan - id code: MAXELL-002-00) from Office Depot that were on sale for buy one get one free. I will try those after the sonys are gone. The bit setting utility worked, I checked the dvd after I burned it. One question that I have is, I noticed that the sonys burned at 2.4x with dvd decrypter even though I had dvd decrypter set to burn at 1x, Do you have opinions on whether I will get errors every once in a while burning at that speed with a 4x Liteon drive? Finally, I want to say thank you to everyone that helped me. This has been one of the most helpful and nicest forums I have been to.
cutlau, You're very welcome. Glad to hear it. 2.4x is plenty slow, you could probably even burn those at 4x without any problems. You can download KProbe (free) to scan your discs from that same site I gave you for the booktype utility. Mort
agreed ,you should be fine burning at 4X as long as you are using good media (like what you listed that you bought). GOOD blank media and the Burn speed is what makes GREAT quality backups Happy burning and glad we could help ,shoot us back if you have anymore questions about media,burn speeds ,programs etc.
