how can i increase my DVD ripping speed?

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  1. johnh50

    johnh50 Member

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    Just a thought. The Plextor 708a will only rip at 2X if the "Button hold " is not performed prior to ripping..
     
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    I don't own a Plextor. Maybe explain it to ryedizzel in a little more detail. I guess you are saying there is a fix or bypass to unlock it.

    Jerry
     
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    flip218 Moderator Staff Member

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    I believe you don't need to do this using the new DVD Decrypter.

    Open Decrypter -> click tools, then settings -> Device tab -> check the box "Enable SpeedRead DVD (Plextor)"
     
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    Sorry about being so vague...With the plextor 708a, while the tray is closed and no media present , hold the tray open/close button in until the lights flash three times and then release..once that is done it will rip beyond 2X...but it has to be done each and every time prior to ripping...
     
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    Flip 218

    Thanks for the heads up about the Plextor speed read and the new DVD Decrypter..I just updated and will check it out..My Push button speed unlock habit is going to be hard to break...wait a minute, It was hard to remember? anyway...great info!
     
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  6. ryedizzel

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    [bold]"Sorry about being so vague...With the plextor 708a, while the tray is closed and no media present , hold the tray open/close button in until the lights flash three times and then release..once that is done it will rip beyond 2X...but it has to be done each and every time prior to ripping... "[/bold]


    dude, you are the man. my ripping speed displayed by DVD shrink went from 45 minutes @ 2,696 KB/s to 21 minutes at 4,800 KB/s!

    wow, i knew something wasn't right. why did Plextor do this? is it because all the big movie companies paid them some kind of money to make DVD ripping slow to discourage movie pirates or something? yet Plextor left this hidden feature to unlock it so they don't turn themselves off to the majority of consumers? not sure if this is the case but it definetly seems like it.

    anyway, i am having a strange issue though. like i said, when it started the rip speed was reading 4,800 KB/s. and during the first few minutes it actually kept increasing all the way up to 5,400 KB/s!

    HOWEVER, then it started to decrease all the way down to 3,400 KB/s, thus causing the completion time to remain stuck at 21 min. i let it go for another 10 min and the speed has decreased even further to 3,182 KB/s, while only showing a completion time of 4 min less. why is this happening?

    thanks again for all your help!
     
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  7. ryedizzel

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    now its starting to go back up again with a speed of 3,800 KB/s and a completion time of 5 min. weird....
     
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    Plextor is the only manufacturer to give you the option from the factory. All others are factory locked and require a third party hacked firmware to unlock it.

    Quite the opposite I imagine. MPAA loves to sue people over stupid meaningless things.

    Keep in mind that reads rates can and do vary for many reasons. The condition of the original can be a big factor.

    Unless you're hell bent on wearing out your Plexy as soon as possible I'd highly suggest installing an inexpensive DVD ROM such as the Lite-On 166S or 167T ($30) to handle your ripping chores.
     
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    Nephilim ... how much faster, if any, will a Liteon DVD-ROM rip? (PS: Nice gif!!!).
     
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    Ryedizzel

    Sounds like to me you might be experiencing a high number of errors during the reading, causing the burner to throttle back to pio mode.. An easy way to check is to right click on "My computer" left click "properties" and then open the "hardware " tab and then "device manager" and then open "secondary IDE channel and then "Advanced settings" if it shows your device is running in Pio Mode, you need to change it back to DMA. (Ultra DMA mode 2)
     
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    just thought I'd make everyone feel better. for me to do a deep analysis, encode, and decrypt,with shrink and then decryptor takes me about 4 and a half hrs. I have a compaq. amd 2800 and the new sony dvd burner ( the one before the dual layer). Does my computer suck or what. and then most of the time it freezes and I get coasters. I think I'd be better off trying to put both disc in the toaster to burn them. Did anybody else catch that thread. Oh..., Please Help !
     
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    jlg895

    Your AMD is a 2.25 GHz CPU. You are going 1 to 1-1/2 hours longer than you should be...providing you didn't include burn time. Something needs fixing.
     
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    [bold]Sounds like to me you might be experiencing a high number of errors during the reading, causing the burner to throttle back to pio mode.. An easy way to check is to right click on "My computer" left click "properties" and then open the "hardware " tab and then "device manager" and then open "secondary IDE channel and then "Advanced settings" if it shows your device is running in Pio Mode, you need to change it back to DMA. (Ultra DMA mode 2) [/bold]

    ok i checked this before and during my DVD ripping. both times it showed the current transfer mode as being "Ultra DMA mode 2".

    however you could of been right with the read errors thing, because it did have a bunch of small scrathes. i just "backed up" another one of my DVDs right now and it started off at 5,700 KB/s and after a few minutes increased all the way to 7,900!!! the total completion time at the end was 17 min flat, whereas that first one was 30 min. AMAZING. you guys have been a great help.

    Nephilim i will definetly heed your suggestion on investing in a Lite-On DVD reader solely for my ripping needs. i just hope it will perform as fast, if not more, than my Plextor.
     
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  14. Nephilim

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    The Lite-On should be at least equal to the rip speeds of the Plextor. Using Nero's CD/DVD Speed utility I've seen it average 10X on a DL disc and hit upwards of 14X on SL discs. It's an outstanding little drive for reading protected PC games as well :)
     
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    I'll run a couple tests to get some concrete numbers and check back in :)
     
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    Nephilim ... I too would be very interested in your results. This is an area of backing up where there is very little info ... just user preferences.
     
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  17. Nephilim

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  18. Nephilim

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    Looks like the Litey is equal and then some :)
     
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    The Lite-On is definitely a good choice for ripping. For single layer discs the speed almost always averges more than 6x and maxes out close to 11x. When ripping single layer discs I occasionally hit 16x and generally average 10x - 11x. Mine's the 166s BTW. Nephilim and I have practically identical preferences in ROMs and burners. He just hasn't realized that Pioneer makes slightly better DVD burners than Plextor. But I'll convince him one of these days ;-)
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