how can i increase my DVD ripping speed?

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  1. Nephilim

    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    Lol! I'm a Plextor slut through and through. I will never be changed! :p
     
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    Hi guys - just wanted to say that I've been a reader for a while but first time poster.

    Anyways - I just bought and installed the Pioneer 108. I'm ripping my first movie (Old School) and I have deep analysis off. The ripping/encoding part is taking me like 1 hour 20 minutes at 1,500 -1,900 KB/s. My system is Athlon XP1900, 512 PC2700, 80 GB western digital and of course the Pioneer 108. Does 1:20 for ripping and encoding sound about right for my system? I've been looking at upgrading my system to an A64 system, if I could cut this time down to 30-40 minutes by doing so it would really make me consider the upgrade much, much more.

    Thanks - Jesse
     
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    If you're ripping with the 108 using the stock firmware then yes, your times are entirely possible.

    Factory burners are locked to a 2X read speed for DVD videos so , depending on the size of the source disc, that could account for 30-45 minutes of your time. Using a hacked firmware or installing an inexpensive ROM would cut down your rip times considerably.

    A faster processor and more RAM would do wonders for your encoding times :)
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    And welcome to AD :)
     
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    man I feel dumb- but, if I bought a Lite-On 166S that would/could greatly reduce my ripping times because my Pioneer is locked at 2x and the with the Lite-On its not uncommon to acheive 10x, is this correct???
     
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    JesseN

    The Lite On 166s is a DVD-ROM drive that will rip a DVD to be burned..using a relatively inexpensive DVD -ROM drive increases ripping speed and reduces wear and tear on your DVR 108. You made a wise choice with the Pioneer...A Lite ON 166S DVD-ROM drive can be purchased for around 30 dollars..Standard DVD-ROM drives are not as sensative to disc Read errors as DVD burners ..Just a mention..a faster rip does not always produce the same quality burn as a slower one..Pioneer DVR 108 are desinged to slow down for a higher quality read (rip)..
     
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    thx john

    2 questions.

    1) Are you saying the Lite-On would be a lower quality read (rip)?

    2) I'm interested to hear thoughts on this. My desktop (athlon xp1900 with 512 ram) just ripped another dvd at 1hr 25 minutes with speed of roughly 1400-1500. My laptop (dell 5100, p4 2.66, 512 pc2700 ram) just ripped a movie in 29 minutes with speeds of starting at about 3500, later on was roughly 4100). Thoughts??
     
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    John50,

    That is the first time I've seen someone say that. I myself don't think ripping speed makes any difference. Now when it come to burning I say slower is better.
     
    flip218, Sep 19, 2004
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    The Pioneer 108, as well as other DVD drives, slow down to read when it's required. This is easy to see when DVD Decrypter is used with the max setting...as you will see the read speed fluctuate, e.g., it will decrease when data is more difficult to read. In this way one could say a drive slows down to get a higher quality rip...and that is because it has to do so in order to maintain the integrity of the file system.

    The next step in this logic ... that there is a difference in the quality of a slow vs. fast rip ... is erroneous. You either record a good file system, or you don't. I would add that sometimes Decrypter must be set to 1x manually to get a good read, because it will not be able to read the data at 2x or more.
     
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    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    Care to qualify this statement?


    What, slow down past the 2X they're capped at? With the exception of Plextor, all burners come from the factory locked to a 2X rip speed and it certainly isn't for accuracy reasons.
     
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    I'd also like to see some evidence to support these claims.
    Actually Pioneer burners, like nearly all burners and DVD-ROMs are limited to lower rip speed for movies due to agreements with the entertainment industry who want it to be as much of a pain in the ass as possible for you to rip a movie.
     
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    I use a Sony DRU 530A to rip and burn with. I've not found anything about it being locked at 2x, and on occasion I rip at 1x using the manual setting in DVD Decrypter. I've confirmed that this is the actual read speed. I'm wondering now if I just lucked out with my choice of burner?

    Also, I don't use my DVD ROM anymore because the Sony seems to do a better job of reading. While this is supposed to reduce my burner life, the 530A has a 100,000 hour MTBF (@20% duty cycle). Accordingly, if I ripped/burned 10 DVD's every day from now on (which is a lot more than I could ever keep up with) it should crap out about 50 years from now!!!

     
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    Well I'm upgrading to an A64 system, should have all the parts and everything up and running by the end of the week. I also bought the lite-on 167T so I'll run a few basic tests and put the results here.
     
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