How Critical is a Verification Failure?

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  1. Grongle

    Grongle Member

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    My apologies for asking a question that must be impossible to answer. But perhaps there is a "strong likelihood" answer.

    Blanks: hewlett-packard (blue) CDs
    Burn speed: slowest available
    Hardware: BenQ LS DW 1655 (DVD/CD R-RW)
    Software: Nero 7.5.1.1 Express

    In burning data, typically OS ISOs, I get 40-50% verification failure, although the burn itself is rated successful 100% of the time.

    To my surprise, even when I get a successful verification and immediately burn a second disk on the same project (by simply responding Yes to Nero's offer), that second disk is just as likely to fail verification.

    To check the disks that fail, I look at their OS start-up data, which seems correct. The trouble with this kind of "failure" is that all I really know is that the disk was not considered identical to the original. I strongly suspect my verification failures are "almost perfect" and whatever is wrong is extremely unlikely to ever show up.

    But I'm not sure. So these verification failures are a sort of logical limbo, and I'm not sure what to do with them.

    Because they represent half of what I do, that's kind of a messy place to leave things. Do you have suggestions? Thank you.
     
  2. magus7091

    magus7091 Regular member

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    I hate to say it but I have had the exact same problem historicly and usually what I do is just get an MD5 sum or other sum on the original data, then sum the burned disc myself. I stopped using verification in nero for one reason. Every disc I burned failed verification, but they all worked and matched md5 sums perfectly.
     
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    The verification features in most burning programs are absolutely worthless and in no way indicate the quality of the burn. To do that you'd need to compare byte-by-byte the data (DOS' File Compare [fc.exe /b file1 file2] is the best way). MD5 or SHA hashing will also work. To check the burn quality itself, you'd need to run something like Nero CD/DVD Speed which is available free, and look for C1 and C2 errors.

    I don't know about the quality of HP discs. As a general rule with both CDs and DVDs, make sure each box you buy says "Made in Japan". With DVDs, Verbatim is the one exception to that rule, though I understand Verbatim's CD-Rs aren't any better than most of the other junk brands.
     

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