How to fix 90% of your games freezing or locking up!!

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  1. Scot

    Scot Regular member

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    This was written by a very knowledgable member of the xbox-scene (chefelf) and he should get all the credit. It has helped many solve ther problems with games hanging up.

    For complete thread and updated versions please visit http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?act=ST&f=11&t=134146&s=950f3d4200e6008e5f3af044e28f285f
    If it helps you post in his thread andlet him no.


    Game Backup/Freeze Problems
    How to Fix 90% of Game Backup Problems

    Every week when new games are released the Backup Forums (and Newbie Chat) are inundated with posts saying "Such and Such game locks up! What do I do?" A huge number of posts on the main page of the Backup Forum are about how someone is having a problems backing up a specific game (i.e. KOTOR, GTA, Crimson Skies, etc.).

    These problems are hardly ever game specific. There are only a few games that have specific problems. For the most part game freezes happen for the same reasons on every game.

    Follow these steps (one or more of them could be causing the problem) and chances are your game backup will play perfectly.

    1.) Turn off IGR (Evolution X)

    Problem:
    The IGR in Evolution X has been known to have issues with some setups. Turning it off and using an IGR in your BIOS will alleviate any potential problems with games locking up on the "loading" screen.

    Solution:
    IGR (or In Game Reset) is toggled on/off through your evox.ini. It resides in three separate places: [Misc], [FTP] and [RDTOOLS]. Make sure each instance of IGR in the evox.ini file looks like the following:

    CODE
    IGR = No


    You can either do this in Evolution X through System Utilities/Settings (remember to save and exit) or by editing your evox.ini file and uploading it to your Xbox via FTP.

    2.) Patch the Game

    Problem:
    A media check (read: copy protection) in newer games causes the game to lockup during loading. This usually occurs later than an IGR game freeze. All games released after February 2003 contain this media checks and it has several variations. The media check has been put in place so that the Xbox can verify that the game disc is a legitimate copy.

    Solution:
    The game can be patched any number of ways.

    Backup to DVD (PC)
    You can use a patching program such as Craxtion, Qwix or ADR Patcher. These programs are designed to go through the XBE files on your computer and actually patch them to remove the media checks.

    Backup to Hard Drive (Xbox)
    There are programs that will auto patch games while backing them up to the hard drive. These programs include dvd2xbox and Px-HDD Loader.

    BIOS Upgrade
    Newer BIOS versions (Xecutor 4977 or later, Evox M7 or later) can auto patch games on the fly. This allows you to play backed up games on your modded Xbox even if they contain the media check.

    3.) Set Your System Clock

    Problem:
    Games tend to freeze during game play. This will often happen when games are auto saving and run into errors (i.e. the Xbox reporting a date of 11-15-2001).

    Solution:
    Set your system clock through MS Dashboard/settings. If you leave your Xbox unplugged for 4 hours or longer the clock will need to be reset when you boot it back up.

    4.) Clear Your Cache

    Problem:
    When you load games, the loads are temporarily stored in "cache" to speed up load times. This works on the same principle as web browsing. HTML files and images are temporarily stored in a cache or temporary directory so that the sites you visit the most often don't have to load the same graphics and text again and again, increasing the speed of your web browsing. Games do the same thing so that your load times speed up.

    Occasionally these cache files will get corrupted or will not erase properly. This and causes a game to freeze or not load properly.

    Solution:
    Delete your cache files. The following directories can be emptied (delete all the files inside, not the directories themselves).

    CODE

    E:\CACHE
    X:\
    Y:\
    Z:\



    5.) Delete Save Game Files (Last Resort)

    Problem:
    A corrupted save game file makes it impossible for a game to launch properly or the game freezes when trying to load a game.

    Solution:
    Delete the save game files for that game. Obviously this is a last resort because no one wants to lose all the progress they've made in a given game. Your game saves are located in the following directories:

    CODE

    E:\TDATA
    E:\UDATA



    These directories are pretty hard to decipher on their own. You would be best served to download XBox-Saves Manager. This program, if you are not familiar with it, will FTP into your Xbox and allow you to read the save game files to see what games they represent. You can then delete the offending file from the game giving you trouble.

    *Make sure to make a backup of any data on your Xbox before you try removing any files. Not only could you use a save game file but you could possibly delete important system files and prevent your Xbox from functioning properly. With your C and E drive backed up you should be able to safely remove save game files.*

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    To the best of my knowledge those are the causes of and solutions to the majority of game freezing and backup problems. I am by no means an expert but hopefully this will serve as a useful guide to those of you having problems.

    If anyone has anything to add to this list (or sees anything wrong with my technical explanations of the problems) please PM me and I will change it to keep this guide up to date. As I said, I'm not an expert so my technical explanations could be flawed or just plain wrong. That doesn't change the fact that the solutions to these problems are the same and usually solve the problems.

    I may not be an expert but my game backups never freeze so that's got to count for something.

     
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  2. deb5877

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    This is very informative but what if the original game is freezing when trying to load? I do not backup any games, I only copy the originals to my hdd. The original game, Max Payne 2 is freezing while trying to load the detective level, so I believe this will not apply to me, I think. Any advise? Shouldn't you be able to play any xbox original game on any xbox system whether it is premodded or not?
     
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    I also have a HDTV and have had other problems with games that would not play, but found out I had to adjust the 480I, 1081i, and 720p (to no) in order to play certain games. Is this a problem with max payne 2, does anyone know?
     
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    I backed this game up last night with no problems at all. Runs fine from the DVD+r as well as the hard drive.

    Before you say that this post dosent apply to you you should try some of these things. Yes it can freeze with the original and even more so that your cache files need to be cleared. When a game is on your hard drive it creates cache files on your drive that help the game load faster. When you put the original in there, it might be having a conflict with the cache files already on your hard drive causing the games to freeze. It also works the same way with the game saves. Did you try any of these? Either way it will not hurt your xbox to try these steps as well as have your IGR's off and setting your date and time correctly.
     
  5. CrackHo

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    Scot, I found your post by doing a google search about Xboxs locking up. I'm having problems with my Xbox locking up and am absolutely clueless about how to fix it. Your post seems to have all the answers, but I have no idea how to do what your post suggests. I don't have any mod-chips, or anything fancy on my Xbox. It's just the base model I bought when the Xbox first came out in 2001. Could you either dumb down your instructions to my level or point me in the right direction as to where to find out how to do all of this programming stuff. It sounds to me like I need to hook my Xbox up to my computer, but I've never done anything of the sort. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Ryan
     

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