I dunno. The graphics don't look all that much better than what exists now and I don't like the idea of paying to download new levels and such. Just Microsoft trying to make more money off me. I don't use the Xbox Live feature at all because I don't need another bill. Also the name 360 is stupid. It should be X2 duh. EBGames is taking pre-orders. I talked to the guy this morning and he said it'd be around $350-$400. But he may have been lowballing me to get me to pre-order one. So far I don't think I'll run out and get one. Too much money and not much to show for it. Blah. Maybe by the time PS3 comes out 360 will show me something worth buying. Till then I'll wait for 2006.