http://www.christianexodus.org/ http://objective.jesussave.us/ These two sites, the second has been mentioned before, have strongly affected my belief that religion can sometimes be logical. The first site feels, in the event that gay marriage is made legal, (aside: isn't it already legal, since Mass. legalized it all others states must accept these marriages due to the equality clause of the constitution?) that christians all over America should assert their right and move en masse to a certain state (Alabama, Mississippi, or South Carolina...all once confederate states mind you) and take over the state legislator, then succede from the country. All to protect their rights. Now who would've thought that giving the right to marriage to a large group of people would infringe on the rights of christians? I can't believe that anyone would wish to follow suite in the precedings that began the civil war. Now, onto the second site, although it has been mentioned before, I held this slim, small hope that perhaps this site was a joke. A well employed joke on people like me that so object to the propaganda that is spewed from its pages. Well its been months and the page remains, with new propaganda, err, material to boot. Despite all of this, in light of the first site, I can still laugh whole-heartedly at this site; for in the shadow of the former the latter is absolutely benign in comparison. _X_X_X_X_X_[small]This is an amazingly imformative site with many places to find information and help. Please support it. [/small]
Hah, that's no real threat of separation! I live in Quebec, and we have that many people demand separation daily. But seriously, i can't fathom why some people believe that so-called "secularists", or those of another faith, pose a threat to their very existence. Honestly, i see this as an attempt to impose their views on others. And should that fail, just cut themselves off from the rest of the world. If religion makes you treat a stranger better, makes you happy and helps you through your day, great. Hey, it would be great if more people acted like Jesus, we'd have no wars, and everyone would have health care (If you read Acts in the christian bible, you'll know God's a socialist). Anyway, crazy religious extremism = bad. end communication.
Those are bad, but these guys are just nutjobs! http://www.landoverbaptist.org/ Actually I disagree with most of what is on here, but the site is pretty funny. _X_X_X_X_X_[small]Toshiba Satellite P4 HT 2.6 Ghz 1 Gb PC2700 DDR SDRAM NEC Nd-1300a External 0 to Burn in 22 Minutes One by one the penguins are stealing my sanity! <(C:}[/small]
roeod4, that site you linked to is a joke, it's satire. The same people who designed it, created these sites. http://www.whitehouse.org/ http://www.georgewbush.org/
Those bush sites were amazing. I love the slogan "Bush Kills Arabs Dead" That caused be to laugh out loud, that everyone around now has stronger evidence that I am crazy. But About the topic, I think Gays should be free to marry. the anti arguemnets don't make sense and I am glad that many have been connected in Toronto.
I actually asked a Religious Education Teacher about this gay marriage thing. She said, the bible states "Two people of the same sex may love each other as much as they want", "But they may not perform acts of sexual intercourse" I do not mean offence to ANYONE. Anyone who has taken offence, I'm sorry.
Intercourse huh? does that mean Lesbian sex is OK? Yet another inconsitancy in the Bible!!!!! ;p (No, i'm not trying to offend anyone either) I'm not disturbed or threatened by Gays being allowed to wed or adopt kids, it does not undermine me as a heterosexual. But the way some people see it, it's going to cause some cataclysm to occur.
how the fusk do they got that much time to waste damn its just so fu$%ing stupid Crap do somethimg usefull with your life 4 Gods Sake im Chatolic an i support gay marriage damn what about the freedom of religion argh its just stupid
Im not a religious fanatic or against same sex relationships as such, but i dont believe in marriage and definitly dont agree with same sex marriage. With 50% of marriage ending in divorce the sanctity of it has already been corroded enough. Marriage in the eyes of the church is for a male and female to have their love for each other recongized in the eyes of god. That is what its for, no ifs buts or maybe's. No church was set up to recongize husband-husband marriage or wife-wife marriage. I dont see why theres a need to have arguments about this, its the way it is. Oh and im well aware no one is going to agree with this Same sex unions should be a civil celebration of love, but they can never be recongized in a church
Another example of how churches and organized religion spend all their time making up rules and pointing fingers instead of loving people for who they are. Religion is nothing more than a bunch of baseless rules and excuses to discriminate against people who've never done anything wrong besides breaking the "rules". There are approximately 22 major religions in the world with almost countless subdivisions of each and each and every one of them believes they have the one "true" religion and the rest of the world is wrong. It strikes me as very arrogant and ignorant to put yourself above everyone else based on your particular interperatation of who God is. I have absolute faith which is why I have absolutely no use for religion.
First of all, there are many "gay-friendly" Christian denominations (and other faiths as well), a google search can tell you that better than i can. Second, marriage was originaly a way of passing down wealth and preserving alliances, religion simply adopted it, marriages based on love, are relatively new. No law should force a church to have gay weddings if they choose not to. But the state should recognize the unions of any couple (human and adult couples!!! just cutting that potential argument off) married in a church that does. Get your marriage license at a courthouse, and have either a judge at the courthouse or a minister at a "gay-friendly" church, marry you, it's just the way it should be. _ _X_X_X_X_X_[small]"Kids, you tried, and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try"[/small]
I been reading a lot about different religions and stuff and i notice something Um i dont know all of ya but dont you think all religions go to the same God changed by their society moral rules exact location and beliefs it doesnt matter in what God you believe Budda, God (Chatolism), Shinte, Allah etc etc All of them are just one God viewed in several different ways Maria=)
The thing is, being agnostic, to me it's a moot point whether they're recognized in a church. I don't interfere in anyone's religion unless it interferes with me. Civil recognition of marriage is another issue entirely, and to be perfectly honest, I think a lot of the problem is simply the word marriage itself. A lot of very religious people are fine with the idea, but only if it's called something other than marriage (like a civil union) because marriage has, by definition, a religious connotation to them. Many gays and lesbians, on the other hand, aren't willing to accept having a different legal name for their unions because they feel it's kind of like the old "Separate But Equal" laws before the civil rights movement. In light of the devisivness of the word marriage, I'm personally in favor of striking the word entirely from the law books and replacing it with Civil Union. I mean I understand why someone who's been taught all their life that marriage has certain religious implications would be upset by the idea that the state is trying to redefine the term, but in reality the state already has. Marriage in the civil sense is purely a matter of legal rights that don't have anything to do with any church, but do have a big impact on things like getting insurance, getting credit, property inheiritance, and custody of children. In other words, in the eyes of the law a marriage is pretty much just a civil union in fact, so why not make it one in name as well if it will eliminate some of the objections to what is otherwise just a common sense argument to most people.
I actually don`t really think that is the case with all religions. The true comes out, My mother is a gian (Sp?) but its the belive in the earth and the universe. Basically that the universe will provide. so there is no god. Also other religions have many gods or godess. Once you get down to it though the God is really not that important. What is important is the moral fabric that ties the belivers. Helping other and being help really is the best path to enlightnment.
I'm not going to try and even offend anyone here. Simple fact of life: Most important thing is to enjoy it. (No "Thank you Mr. Obvious" statements please) Contary to popular belief not that many people believe this. Of course, this is only my opinion and it is worth absolutely nothing to you =)
But Humanity whats easy answers. Thats why many flock to religion in the first place. Keep the easy answers coming. Do on to others as you would have done onto your self.
