Kryptview 780 Resellers

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  1. fordaz

    fordaz Member

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    Okay, so North East England finally had the N3 switchover and I'm dumping my now worthless original SV box.

    After debating for many weeks whether to buy the SV6 or KV780 box, I've decided on the latter.

    I've found a reseller for the KV on eBay selling for £160 including delivery, just wondering if anyone knew of any resellers listing these things for less.
     
  2. hooter007

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    thats just an average price from anybody
    also buy from a reputable dealer i would not buy 1 of them from e.bay
    check out under e45 signature, (facebook ICONNECT)
    or try and send a pm HERE
     
  3. fordaz

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    Wait, what? You say "buy one from a reputable dealer", and then you tell me to PM some random guy on Facebook who sells them?

    Why would I not buy one from eBay? The person selling is a top-rated seller, with 1518 positive reviews. Plus I'd be protected by eBay's buyer protection policy, and PayPal's payment protection scheme.

    Whereas if I bought it from some random dude I get neither of those things.

    Never mind, I'll buy from eBay. Was hoping there'd be some official stockists of these things like Starview has.
     
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    well why come on here if you trust this guy already?
    most of people that have got a krypt on this forum got it through the facebook link

    and i was not talking about payment protection
    what happens if something happens your box after a month or 2 do you still get the 12 month guarantee from the chap in e.bay
    i just pointed you to some1 who can be trusted :)
    oh yeh he is a stockist by the way
     
  5. e45

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    and you are still protected by paypal as well as that is the only payment accepted by them so your quite safe


    FACEBOOK PAGE
     
  6. chocco1

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    why not go kryptview site email them and pay by paypal that way your covered if you dont trust anyone
     
  7. fordaz

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    It's not that I "don't trust anyone". The point of my enquiry was to find out if there was an actual stockist with a real business address etc who stocks and sells these things from an actual company.

    As far as I can tell, this "Iconnect" guy has absolutely no contact details listed anywhere on facebook or his website. No address, no contact telephone number, nothing.

    It's all done through shady emails on a social networking site.

    What is this "12 Month Guarantee" you speak of, hooter007? Does this Iconnect person offer a written seller's guarantee with his purchases? I find that hard to believe considering he doesn't operate out of any kind of legitimate business that I can see.

    Or are you referring to the standard 12 month Warranty which is supplied with every electrical item sold in the UK (which, by the way, is immediately voided by modifying the firmware)?

    If it's the latter, then yes. Not that it's much use for what I intend to use the Box for (which is the same, I imagine, as everyone else who bought it).

    If I were to buy from "Iconnect", does he actually invoice me for the goods on PayPal, or is it just a case of sending him some money over PayPal, and he mails me the box?

    PayPal's payment protection only covers an actual Checkout transaction, not money transfer.

    [Edit:

    Domain name:
    kryptview.co.uk

    Registrant:
    Mahesh Tailor

    Registrant type:
    UK Individual

    Registrant's address:
    The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their
    address omitted from the WHOIS service.]

    He's even hidden his address and contact details from WHOIS, because he's not an official stockist or reseller. He's just a guy selling these things from his house or something.

    How can you sit there and tell me he's a stockist and he can be trusted if he won't even give out his "business" (which doesn't actually exist) details?

    How can he offer a "12 month Guarantee" if he's not even a registered trader?

    I'm sure he does sell them, and I'm sure that they're fine, but he's certainly not a stockist, and he's certainly not obligated to replace a faulty box if I were to receive one from him.
     
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    I can vouch for the integrity of this seller having bought from him in the past.Nobody on the scene i'd trust more.
     
  9. menszone

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    mate think you should buy from elsewhere,it seems u dont trust anyone
     
  10. e45

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    Fordaz as menzone has said above best to buy where you want as obviously you dont trust anyone

    Paypal is as safe as houses so no matter where a person trades or does not trade from your covered.

    go with the ebay dealer lol see what happens in 3 or even 6mts down the line if something goes wrong lol
     
  11. hooter007

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    ahh why do i even bother
     
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    Or even quicker if the Ebay team at VM grab Fordaz's name and address and decide to pay him/her a visit :)
     
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  13. menszone

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    lol hope that he does'nt buy off there then
     
  14. fordaz

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    Lol... "eBay team at VM"? What the hell are you talking about? There's nothing illegal about buying a FTA cable receiver. So no court in the world is going to make eBay give up my address. And even if VM turned up at my door (which they have before) they have no right to access my Home or check if the Box I'm using has been firmware modified to decode encrypted channels. So please, stop talking out of your arse.

    The eBay seller is from http://www.dcreceivers.com, they are a reputable seller with over 1500 positive reviews on eBay. Plus they have their address and contact details listed on the website.

    @e45; Saying PayPal is "safe as houses" just isn't true at all. PayPal's buyer protection from a non-eBay sale only lasts 45 days (let's not forget the eBay owns PayPal). Which means after a month and a half I'm on my own. And this only applies if it's an official sale through PayPal's checkout service, and not a money transfer, and only if the seller is a verified business or premier account holder, and not a personal account holder. Furthermore, the Warranty on the device starts from the day it's sold. If "Iconnect" is not an official reseller (which I suspect he's not), the warranty starts from the date he receives shipment from his supplier (who is the official reseller). If he then sells the product on, the warranty is worthless without original proof of purchase (which I won't have). And who knows how long he's had the boxes sitting around? They might only have 6 months left on the warranty.

    This is, of course, forgetting about the fact that once the Firmware has been modified to decrypt encoded channels, the Manufacturer's Warranty is voided anyway. So it doesn't really matter if I buy it from eBay, facebook guy or an alien with 3 nipples... once the firmware is modded, that's it.

    Thank you for your advice, chaps. I know you mean well, and I'm sure Iconnect is a stand-up fella who'll bend over backwards through hoops for you all 6 months down the line if your boxes develop a fault. However, I'm not interested in sending hundreds of pounds over the internet to someone who has no selling credentials whatsoever.
     
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    your talking out of your arse mate glad im not a seller having to deal with you i would say you be a nightmare to any person let alone a seller thank god for small mercies
     
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  16. fordaz

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    I'm "talking out of my arse" because I disagree with the advice that you've given me?

    Advice is just that, advisory, I can take it or leave it. And when Advice comes from mis-informed individuals such as yourself and hooter007, where it's painfully obvious that you actually have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to distance-selling regulations or PayPal's buyer protection policies, then I'll go ahead and leave it.

    I do, actually, know quite a lot about the subject matter. Having been employed as a distance-selling regulator for a well known fruit-based telecommunications company (go figure that one out yourself). So out of my arse is not, in fact, where I'm talking from.

    For the record, I actually emailed Iconnect to enquire about what kind of guarantees he offered, and payment method he uses a couple of days ago, and I'm still waiting on a reply.

    But anyway, the matter is resolved. Thank you for taking the time to reply to my question, and even though I do disagree with you, I still appreciate the effort you've made.
     
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    its your loss fordaz,you get nothing but top quality help from the regulars on here.
     
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    i m totaly agree wid this guy fordaz, he is right.. please fordaz let me knw where from u gona buy it.. i m gona buy from there aswell then . thanks mate
     
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    lol pig in a poke comes to mind here lol
     
  20. fordaz

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    http://dcrecievers.com is where I wound up purchasing the box from. £160 delivered, which is the same price that iConnect was offering his for (he eventually emailed me back), only these guys offer a proper warranty and have an actual returns policy.

    You can buy them through eBay, or through their website by PayPal or direct purchase. I bought mine from their eBay listing simply because the appeals process is easier if something does go wrong. Not that I expect it will.

    I had 2 PM's from people on this forum who said they'd bought their boxes from there with no issues, so I'm reasonably confident that they're above board.

    @e45: Pot Kettle Black also comes to mind, considering you're the one peddling a guy on facebook. Are you on commission from this guy or something? Are you him? You seem to be taking the fact that I (and, indeed, mr zaib123 up there) don't want to trade with your godlike facebook seller rather personally.

    Maybe it's just because you have your head so far up your own arse that you actually believe your own word is gospel. Who knows?

    Anyway why are you still replying to my thread? We've established fully that you have nothing further constructive to add to the discussion. Your previous comments on the matter have been noted and taken into account (and subsequently ignored, but this is neither here nor there). Your little idiom isn't clever, and it smarts a bit of hypocrisy, and desperation, if I'm honest.

    [Edit: zaib123, I'll drop you a PM when I get the box and let you know how the sale went. I'm not going to follow this thread any longer, as I feel it's reached it's conclusion now that I've made my decision.]
     
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