ok I give up.. I've searched the whole of google to fix my problem and i just cant work it out. I get the apparent common "Buffer too Large" in Nero when I try and burn a DVDR the DVDRs I am using are the Smiley ones from bigpockets.co.uk which I have already been told aren't great but still they should work right... So basically the first step seems to be to make sure DMA is enabled, which it isn't and I have read the guides to enable it and looked at the nice screenshots... but that is where my PC is different. I don't have the "advanced tab" it asks for so I can't set DMA I tried my server and that does have it but the drive isn't on that one so any ideas on that front would be great. Secondly my firmware version is DL12 which is apparently not the newest version so I downloaded DL13 but the update won't work and gives me an error: Updating was failed. Please repeat that. (Error data = 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Lastly I tried updating my VIA thingys with VIA_HyperionPro_V5.00A.0 which I read somewhere but that doesn't seem to have done alot. Been waiting months to get a DVDRW now finally have one and it wont work :'( spent alot getting the drive, dvdrs and cases this month! Thanks for any help I get the feeling this problem is beginning to be a bit of a bore at least mine is a little different..