i jut got the lite-on shw-160P6S...same drive except the 165 is light scribe.... i like mine so faronly 6 burns on it so far.. im still learning the drive. but it seems to be a good one... i got a few question about the booktype/bitsetting when useing clonedvd2? but im happy with it. alot of people here at AD have this same drive and have good results