Hey kivory, Thanks for the good words. Man you whipped that C MAG puppy pretty good (yelp yelp). Bet it won't be coming home. :O
it never even HAD a home here in my domain mort81~ the sonys should work better for you jer29~ let us know once you try them out~ good luck~
looks like the dvd rw copied fine.... will have to finish off the tdks on the laptop and make sure i find a good media for the lite on verbatims should be in the mail tuesday,so i'll try them. still taking an hour to encode, then about 25 minutes to burn, that's using two drives at once (and it stopped before burning to ask if i wanted to format the dvd rw) when i go to device manager and look at the burner, it has dma checked, but the output seems to show dma not working....says write type is SAO, should that be dma??? I 20:54:46 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started! I 20:54:46 Microsoft Windows 98 W 20:54:46 Drive C:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB W 20:54:46 Drive D:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB I 20:54:46 Initialising ASPI... I 20:54:46 WNASPI32.DLL - ASPI for WIN32 Manager for WIN95 - ASPI for WIN32 DLL - Version 1.0.0.1 I 20:54:46 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 20:54:46 Found 2 DVD-ROMs and 1 DVD±RW! I 20:54:53 Operation Started! I 20:54:53 Device: [0:0:0] LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S JS07 (E I 20:54:53 Media Type: DVD+RW I 20:54:53 Quick Erase: No I 20:54:53 Erasing Disc... I 20:55:15 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:22 I 20:55:17 Operation Started! I 20:55:17 Source File: D:\DVD_BACKUP\VAN_HELSING.MDS I 20:55:17 Source File Sectors: 2,217,241 (MODE1/2048) I 20:55:17 Source File Size: 4,540,909,568 bytes I 20:55:17 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink I 20:55:17 Destination Device: [0:0:0] LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S JS07 (E I 20:55:17 Destination Media Type: DVD+RW (Disc ID: SONY-S11-00) (Speeds: 4x) I 20:55:17 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104 I 20:55:17 Write Mode: DVD I 20:55:17 Write Type: SAO I 20:55:17 Write Speed: MAX I 20:55:17 Link Size: Auto I 20:55:17 Test Mode: No I 20:55:17 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 20:55:17 Filling Buffer... I 20:55:17 Writing LeadIn... I 20:55:19 Writing Image... I 21:22:03 Synchronising Cache... I 21:22:04 Closing Session... I 21:22:25 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:27:08 I 21:22:25 Average Write Rate: 2,766 KB/s (2.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 2,986 KB/s (2.2x)
What speed did you burn at? Log shows average 2.0x but those should be 4x rated discs correct? Hmm write speed says max. Should have burned at 4x. I don't know what SAO means. Did you try the booktype utility and verify it with dvd identifier? Just curious. I also noticed that your hdd's are FAT32. You will probably want to change them to NTFS.
was set to burn at max speed the dvd rw are 4x i didn't do booktype utility last night, wasn't sure what to do with it. i can do it tonight. how do i change from FAT32 to NTFS on win 98? i am gonna try to load win2k on the desktop today, then i'll have to figure out what i have to redo from there....will i have to reload drivers and firmware? using two drives, when i ran shrink, it started encoding, which took an hour, then it took about 20 minutes to burn the dvd. the burn time, while i have no idea how to increase it, is acceptable....but the encoding time taking an hour is crazy, takes the laptop maybe 10-15 minutes for encoding. when i use a single drive to backup on laptop, it takes about 3-5 minutes for analyzing, whereas it takes the laptop maybe a minute or so for encoding. something seems to be wrkong, but i don't know what maybe if i can upgrade to win 2k that will solve some problems
Hi jer, What speed pcu do you have in your desktop? How much free space do you have on your hdd and have you defragmented rescently? Have you removed spyware/adware lately? Since you're going to upgrade your os anyway why not upgrade to XP? I'm not for sure on changing from FAT32 to NTSF and don't want to tell you something wrong. I would start another thread asking how it's done. You shouldn't have to mess with drivers or firmware after os upgrade. I'm still puzzled as to why the long burn times. Should be 13-15 min at 4x. Lets start with that. Mort
not positive about the pcu speed, but i believe it is a pentium III, dell dimension desktop. i don't think i can use my laptop's reinstall xp disc to upgrade my laptop, but i do have a win2k disc that should work to install win 2k. i never see 4x on burn, i am lucky to see 2.5x on burn, which would be fine with me if i could get the encoding portion down to 15 minutes or so, an hour seems way too long for encoding, no idea why that is taking so long. if i use one drive to decrypt, then shrink/decrypt or if i use two drives and just start shrink, both ways the encoding portion takes an hour, then the burning takes about 20 minutes or longer, lucky to see 2.5x, no matter what media i use so far.
I did some more research on FAT32 and NTFS. NTFS is not available on win 95 or 98 os and would require win2k or XP. This could be a reason for slow encode times. I know for video encoding NTFS is recommended. I still suggest starting another thread explaining your situation and setup to get more members involved that know more about this area than I. I can still help you with most problems concerning your litey.
I haven't used win98 in a long time but I think you can click start, right click my computer, click properties, at the bottom it should tell you under computer, cpu and memory.
i appreciate the help. i havmy op system on c drive, and my music and files on a separate 60GB hard drive. i defragged both last week, and run zero spyware/adaware/avg/zone alarm. only thing running while burning is zonealarm. maybe if i can get win2k to load using this disc it will help my encoding time. what exactly is happening during the encoding process that would be making it take so long? i'll try to post a new thread specifically for the long-ass encoding time, but the only advice i've found is check dma settings, which is different for win98, and it says dma is checked, but i'm not sure how to actually determine if it is working that way during burning. i've defragged, checked dma, upgraded firmware, gotten good media....not sure why my encoding time is taking forever. if it is because of the fat32, maybe win2k will fix it. i want to stop using the laptop burner and use the desktop burner so the laptop burner doesn't go out at an inopportune time due to excessive use. i appreciate the help. i'll post a new thread. maybe if you make an appearance in the new thread, that will help get it started and people will at least take the time to check it out. thx
I'm sorry we've hit a bump in the road. I think you will still need to convert to NTFS after os upgrade at least on the hdd you are useing for video encoding. Your cpu speed could definately be causing the slow encode times. PIII probably between 600-800 mhz. 1.3 ghz or higher (really 2.0 ghz) recommended. When you start the new thread make sure you let them know your os (win98), FAT32 file system, memory (512 mb), cpu (PIII), dvdrw (lite-on SOHW-1673S), and software being used (dvd shrink and nero). Hopefully with some help from other members we can get you running smoothly.
jer29, You're not going to get your encode times down to 15 min with a P III cpu even if you don't use any of the quality settings in shrink. 1 hour really sounds about right for that cpu. I'm more concerned with burn times. I'm curious to know if you can burn the verbatums you have ordered at 4x. Just curious, what are the specs on your laptop? Cpu and memory? If you are more concerned about speed, make sure you don't have advanced analysis or any quality enhancements checked under quality settings in dvd shrink as these will both add to time required to encode. I'm more concerned with quality than speed of my backups. I use the best bakup software under $2000 (RB/CCE) to do my backups and it takes an average of 2 hours to encode a vidio folder with about 7,000 to 7,500 mb and as you see in my sig my cpu is at 3.2 ghz and I have 1 gb memory. I edit my vidio folders leaving a working menu, deleted/extended scenes, bloopers, and sometimes the making of. I get rid of warning screens, previews, and trailers.
i'm not sure about the laptop specs, or the desktop specs....can't remember. from what i remember, the desktop is 512k memory, p3 (i think), 40 gb hard drive and 60 gb hard drive (op sys on c drive), dvd rom, lite-on 1673 burner. the laptop is a dell inspiron 5100, i think. i was assuming the dvd burner wasn't that great, but i don't know. the laptop burner is only for dvd +r. i don't use any enhancement or quality settingsi'm still getting used to shrink/decrypter, just started using the forward/reverse to cut scenes and trailers from the main movie. i haven't even checked out the nero that came with the burner. would i have to get a wole new motherboard if i upgrade my cpu? can i add to my cpu, or do i have to replace it? i think i should upgrade from win98 to win2k. if i use the disc and upgrade, and put the op system on my c drive, will i lose all my files on the d drive if i change my c and d drive from fat32 to ntfs? thx
Ok, now I have to eat crow. I had never used dvd shrink without at least checking advanced analysis (I don't use shrink anymore but when I did I checked advanced analysis and max smooth). Well just for $hits and giggles I encoded a movie only 103 min long without any quality settings and the encode only took 7 min. So I guess a PIII could do it in under 30 min without any quality settings checked. I wouldn't be satisfied with the quality though. Thats just me.
for now, i'm not that worried about the quality settings....maybe when i'm more proficient and actually have some idea what i'm doing i'll be a bit more picky. until then, i'd be happy getting the encoding time down to 15 minutes. what do you think about upgrading from win98 to win 2k? will i lose data on the d drive if i change that from fat32 to ntfs? will i lose all info on my c drive when i upgrade the operating system there and change from fat32 to ntfs?
I think that would be a good idea. I don't think so to both but it would be a good idea to double check. I'm going to try to get somebody else involved in this thread that is more knowledgeable than me to answer some of your questions. Mort
i found this link to a bbmayo thread with tons of good info http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/183136 How to convert a FAT volume or a FAT32 volume to NTFS Note Although the chance of corruption or data loss during the conversion is minimal, we recommend that you perform a backup of the data on the volume that you want to convert before you start the conversion. To convert an existing FAT or FAT32 volume to NTFS, follow these steps: 1. Click Start, point to All Programs, point to Accessories, and then click Command Prompt. 2. At the command prompt, type the following, where drive letter is the drive that you want to convert: convert drive letter: /fs:ntfs For example, type the following command to convert drive E to NTFS: convert e: /fs:ntfs Note: If the operating system is on the drive that you are converting, you will be prompted to schedule the task when you restart the computer because the conversion cannot be completed while the operating system is running. When you are prompted, click YES. 3. When you receive the following message at the command prompt, type the volume label of the drive that you are converting, and then press ENTER: The type of the file system is FAT. Enter the current volume label for drive drive letter ..... 4. When the conversion to NTFS is complete, you receive the following error message at the command prompt: Conversion complete 5. Quit the command prompt. i'm going to try to upgrade from win98 to win2k tonight i will try to swap both my hard drives from fat32 to ntfs the question i still have is why is my encoding time an hour or more??? is that due to the cpu? i'll check my cpu speed tonight and get specs on both my laptop and desktop. stopping by fedex after work to pick up the verbatims from newegg, gonna check to see where they are made, hoping for japan i appreciate the help.
doh, you beat me to it with the ntfs convert info! For Verbatim's, there are some very detailed threads around afterdawn, about where they're made, the different types etc. - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/173314 - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2/185388 and - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/182297 - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/172184
