Media Sales week of 1/15/06 thru 1/21/06

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  1. bunnyrip

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  2. meltstorm

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    the last few sony MIJ spindles i purchased code out as:

    Media Information
    Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
    Media code/Manufacturer ID SONY D21
    Media Product Revision Number 00h
    Format Capacity Blank Disc
    Free Blocks 405405696
    Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
    Book Type DVD+R
    Media Type DVD+R
    Manufacturer Rated Speed 16.0x 22160KBp
    Available Write Descriptor CLV 16.0x 22160KBps
    Available Write Descriptor CLV 12.0x 16620KBps
    Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
    Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
    Data area starting sector 30000h
    Linear Density 0.267um/bit
    Track Density 0.74um/track
    Number of Layers 1

    Complete Media Code
    00000000 08 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?
    00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 53 4F 4E 59 00 00 00 00 44 .......SONY....D
    00000020 32 31 00 38 23 54 37 14 00 28 6E 00 80 69 17 19 21.8#T7..(n..i..
    00000030 0C 0C 0A 0B 01 19 1B 0B 0B 0E 0F 01 00 00 00 00 ................

    this is their 16x speed, i think if you want to get TY's have to look for sony 8x MIJ, i don't know if TY makes 16x yet.

    any one can rate this sony media, is it good or bad, although MIJ?
     
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    The Sony DVD+R ARE Taiyo Yuden Made according to Sony themselves. Good Media? Hell Yes! Excellent Media! Top Notch! I haven't seen any of the 16x yet in Sony 50 packs of DVD+R.
    All the 50 packs of DVD+R 8x MIJs I have bought have coded as YUDEN000 T02. In MY opinion, some of The very best blank DVD+R media out there. Ask Docty~! :)
     
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  4. kivory666

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    actually, THEY DO...but, i haven't gotten my darn shipment yet~!! grrrrrr...

    Taiyo Yuden's 16x dvd+r format code out as YUDEN000T03 just for your info, when i get mine in...i will let you all know what the unique laser inner hub reading is... :)

    as to "sony" coded media, it's very decent, i haven't used very much of it..maybe a 50-pack total, but, very few issues...it's good stuff. :)

    docTY~

    p.s. as to the "debate" whether ALL of Sony's media are made by Taiyo Yuden...even the ones that are purportedly using the Sony media ID coding, the ONLY sure-fire way to check is on the inner hub...

    ALL Taiyo Yuden discs will have that laser inscribed coding, since my experience with Sony media isn't that extensive, for those that are questioning whether or not Taiyo Yuden made them, but Sony slapped it's own media ID coding on them...check the inner hub and let me know what it says...if you DO NOT find the "GG000xxx" (8x dvd-r) or "TG000xxx" (8x dvd+R) where "xxx" is the batch number of the discs...THAT will be the answer to whether they are Taiyo Yuden made or not...if you don't see this coding...you DO NOT have Taiyo Yudens...

    i have read various posts of people contacting Sony about WHO makes their media, etc..etc..and i have acted upon that and contacted Taiyo Yuden personally to VERIFY these so called "claims" that Sony use Taiyo Yuden on ALL their 8x rated media, regardless of country of origin...from what Taiyo Yuden (the MANUFACTURER) told me, my way of verifying GENUINE Taiyo Yudens STILL holds true...that is the TRUE test of Taiyo Yuden authenticity...based on the inner hub coding, NOT by the media ID coding and country of origin~ :)

    i don't care what Sony says about WHO makes their media that uses the Sony media ID coding...i have confirmation from Taiyo Yuden that Sony COULD be telling whoever asks whatever they want just to get that question out of their queue~ :0

    last word on Taiyo Yuden...if anyone has some MIT Sony's with the Sony id coding, please check on the inner hub to see IF you see one of the 2 codes i mentioned above...IF YOU DO NOT SEE IT, then those are NOT made by Taiyo Yuden...simple as that...regardless of what Sony "claims" is their manufacturer..

    docTY~
     
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    The Doctor has spoken! If anyone knows Taiyo Yudens He does. Thanks for the "inner hub i.d." info Doc! (Get a Magnifying Glass) Personally speaking, if it's Sony Media & Made in Japan, I feel like it's Quality Media. Heck, I think ANY Media that Japan makes will be very good. I agree too Doc, Verbatim, (MCC) makes the Best DVD+R DL media as of now. In fact, the only DVD+R DL I'll buy.
     
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    Here it is. SonyD11 media that is made in taiwan,so therefore cannot be made by taiyo yuden:


    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:SONY-D11-000]
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    Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD-ROM]
    Manufacturer Name : [Sony Recording Media Co.]
    Manufacturer ID : [SONY]
    Media Type ID : [D11]
    Product Revision : [Not Specified]
    Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4.70 GB (4.38 GiB)]
    Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x]
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    [ DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    No TGXXXXXX on the inner dye,but there is 3 sets of numbers on the inner /silver ring.
    Mine says:ARP560/ D0008 / and another string of numbers and letters that you need an electron microscope to read.

    Of course that disc is well over a year and a half old and doesn't say accucore like my newest sony tys.

    I will pick up a few of those japanese spindles at my nearby staples. Can't pass up those tys. BTW: Those taiwanese SonyD11 are still very good. Can't go wrong with sony 8x media.

    Edit:
    Office depot has verbatim Dvd RW's on sale: Spindle of 30 for $12.99
    Buy 1 memosux/get a free spindle of memosux=100 for $29.99- 30 cent crapmags, YeeHaa!

    Best Buy:
    Fuji 3 pks of DL for $9.99
    10 pk Lightscribe +8x verbatim MCC-003 for $15.99
    100 pk of Sony for $29.99 just as bunnyrip described!

    Office Max:
    Crappy Khypermedia: Spindles of 50 for $13.99
     
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  8. MaxBurn

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    Ive had great success with the MIT Sony media. Here is a recent batch of them in the -R format. (bought a month or two ago)
    and the hub numbers read [bold]ARM5G8 D0021[/bold] Its good stuff, but i like Yudens the best.
     
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    thank you saugmon and maxburn, guess the "debate" on WHO makes their MIT Sony media has come to a final conclusion...it's OBVIOUSLY NOT Taiyo Yuden based on your findings~ :) i will not make any false assumptions as to WHICH manufacturer actually produces them, but i do agree, the Sony coded media is quite good~ :)

    as i mentioned earlier, i have NOT had extensive tests nor purchases on the Sony MIT media, only 50-pack to try from before...much like saugmon, quite awhile ago before the new labeling of "accucore" came into effect...

    either way, i hope it can be LAID TO REST as to people saying Taiyo Yuden makes ALL Sony's media...this is SIMPLY NOT TRUE at all~ :)

    despite the media ID coding on discs nowadays, those can easily be faked (ie. FAKE TYG02s-fake taiyo yudens) on a variety of brands of discs...the truth of the matter is...regardless of MID coding, at least in the case of Taiyo Yudens, you CAN still verify the authenticity of them, as per the laser inscribed coding on each of the discs, regardless of format or rated speed...

    well, i sincerely appreciate saugmon and maxburn posting up your findings as i do not have my MIT Sony's any longer (they were backups i made for friends well over a year ago, so they are no longer in my possession...it's been too long to remember the info i did have on them in the past...i'm glad you guys could verify them for me on my behalf~ thanks buddies!

    docTY~

     
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    yes, indeed all the info is very helpful and supportive, just to let you know Doc that the 16x MIJ's i picked up at CompUSA during the holidays, the inner hub coding its kind of difficult to read but to the best of my eyes it says DRP5GG0001, the inner label says SONY CORPORATION DVD+R Vers. 1.3/1-16x.

    I also did a quality check with Nero on a recent back up and the quality came out @ 90.

    This is the 8x Sony MIJ, , and yes those are TY's:


    Media Information
    Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
    Media code/Manufacturer ID YUDEN000T02
    Media Product Revision Number 00h
    Format Type UDF 1.02
    Volume Name

    Application id
    Implementation id Nero
    Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 1/11/2006 20:25:46
    Format Capacity 4.36GB(4.68GB)
    Book Type DVD-ROM
    Media Type DVD+R
    Manufacturer Rated Speed 8.0x 11080KBps
    Data area starting sector 30000h
    Data area end sector 22E21Fh
    Linear Density 0.267um/bit
    Track Density 0.74um/track
    Number of Layers 1

    Complete Media Code
    00000000 08 02 00 00 01 0F 01 00 00 03 00 00 00 25 E2 1F .............%..
    00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E 30 30 30 54 .......YUDEN000T
    00000020 30 32 00 38 23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 8C 63 16 16 02.8#T7..Nr..c..
    00000030 0B 0B 0A 0A 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 ................




    Another thing is when you touch the 16x media the disc itself feels like its not TY, its thinner and sharper on the edges, TY has more like soft solid feel to it, yes u might think it sounds overboard but just my 2 cents on the topic.

    I will definitely stop by Staples and check those Sony' on sale and if they are 8x they are definitely TY's in my opinion, but on the 16x I am not so positive.

     
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    I like the Sonys that are Tys. The label side is smooth white, and a sharpie works fine on it. They are getting harder to find at my local media spots. Just an FYI, i checked a spindle of verbatim CDrs i had and they came up prodisc. These were MIT and were on sale a couple of months ago. They seem ok, but i expected more from Verbatim. Wish i had a bigger selection of Sonys to post about, but all i have are the +R and -Rs, and only about 150 of those. Now if i were Doc (LA's media mogul), and this were my fav brand, i would have 15,000 of them on hand. :) Hey there Doc!
     
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    Since I ran out of my non printable TY's and need to place an order w/ supermediastore I bought a 50 pack of the sony's today at staples to tide me over.
    They only had 3 packs left - only one MIJ - the -r's 8x. Didn't think they would be ty's since they had the AccuCORE label on them.
    Here's the id code:
    Manufacturer ID: SONY08D1
     
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    Anyone found a MIJ 100 pack of the Sony DVD+Rs at BestBuy since this sale started?
     
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    hey there maxburn buddy, how u been? :)

    anyways, MOST of my discs are non-labelled shiny silver Taiyo Yudens, i buy most of my media online; but i do the occasional "wipe out" of local Staples/BestBuy when i CAN find the TY discs under the various labels/companies :)
    i really like those colored 30-pack of Fuji's that are TYs (8x dvd-r/dvd+r MIJ) :p Staples locally no longer has them in stock due to me...LOL..the TY ones at least...

    anyways, binkie, i've had quite good success with the Sony coded media, even though limited to 50, they have proven to be quite good.
    yes, those are not Taiyo Yudens as both saugmon and maxburn have CONFIRMED, but you should be just fine~ :)

    docTY~

    p.s. i haven't been to a store locally in quite a few months now, last time was when Staples had the colored Fuji's on sale 30-pack for less than $10...i dunno if anyone has found any 100-pack Sony's MIJ lately neodave...i'm sure people will start posting if they DO or DO NOT :)
     
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    Just picked up some 50 pack spindles of Sony MIJ DVD-R 8x and DVD+R 8x at Staples for 14.99. They only had 1 8x MIJ -R, the rest were all MIT 16x.. All the +R were 8x and MIJ. The inner hub code on the 8x+R is TGO1200. The code on the -R is DRM5G80001. These say accucore on the disk. I have not id scanned them yet.
     
  17. EWeeks

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    I got a 50 pack of MIJ Sony +R from Staples today and they said acucore on them and the label said that they were from 1-8x and to my surpise when I got home they where 16x TY's with a code of :

    Media Information
    Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
    Media code/Manufacturer ID YUDEN000T02
    Media Product Revision Number 00h
    Format Capacity Blank Disc
    Free Blocks 405405696
    Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
    Book Type DVD+R
    Media Type DVD+R
    Manufacturer Rated Speed 8.0x 11080KBps
    Available Write Descriptor CLV 16.0x 22160KBps
    Available Write Descriptor CLV 12.0x 16620KBps
    Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
    Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
    Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
    Linear Density Blank Disc
    Track Density Unknown
    Number of Layers 1

    Complete Media Code
    00000000 01 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?
    00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E 30 30 30 54 .......YUDEN000T
    00000020 30 32 00 38 23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 8C 63 16 16 02.8#T7..Nr..c..
    00000030 0B 0B 0A 0A 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 ................
     
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    ARE THE SPONYS FROM BB TY CODED?
     
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    @eweeks

    actually, what you got there are 8x Taiyo Yudens, the write descriptor just means on YOUR PARTICULAR burner, it can overspeed to 16x... :) while i would recommend against "overburning" ie. burn faster than rated speed, you COULD do it if you like...

    docTY~
     
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    are yah saying that the sony dvd+R are better than the sony dvd-R, i've been using the sony dvd-R for a while( which where made in taiwan) and they have been very good to me. Today I've pick up my first 50 pack dvd+R from sony, which happens to be ty02- but will these play in most stand alone dvd players.

    i use clonedvd and anydvd to make backup of my movies
     

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