More Nero Burn Problems

Discussion in 'Nero discussion' started by Zimmy75, Dec 15, 2005.

  1. Zimmy75

    Zimmy75 Guest

    My last thread was: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/1/271009#1532496

    I have since updated my drive info as well as my nero packets. I tried again to burn mr. and mrs. smith from files that I saved from my hard drive a while back. I am using nero and once again have had problems.

    the log is:

    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 6:35:34 PM
    Nero Version: 6.6.0.18
    Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18e
    (Nero Express)
    Recorder: <HP DVD Writer 640v> Version: JOU4 - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
    Adapter driver: <> HA 2
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
    Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
    Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
    CD-ROM: <LG DVD-ROM DRN8080B>Version: 4.00 - HA 0 TA 1 - 6.6.0.18
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : HITACHI_DK23CA-20 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : LG DVD-ROM DRN8080B atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : TOSHIBA CD-R/RW SR-C8102 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    LG DVD-ROM DRN8080B D: CDRom1
    TOSHIBA CD-R/RW SR-C8102 E: CDRom2
    HP DVD Writer 640v F: CDRom0
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 510MB (523184kB)
    Free physical memory: 100MB (102480kB)
    Memory in use : 80 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    15.12.2005
    UDF/ISO compilation
    11:00:43 AM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files reallocation started

    11:00:43 AM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

    11:00:43 AM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6359
    UDF document burn settings
    ------------------------------------------
    Determine maximum speed : FALSE
    Simulate : FALSE
    Write : TRUE
    Finalize CD : TRUE
    Multisession : FALSE
    Burning mode : DAO
    Mode : 1
    UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge
    UDF Revision : 1.02
    UDF Partition Type : physical
    ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
    Character set : ISO 9660
    Joliet :FALSE
    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
    Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

    11:00:43 AM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files sorted

    11:00:44 AM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
    Reader running

    11:00:44 AM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
    Writer HP DVD Writer 640v running

    11:00:44 AM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    11:00:44 AM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    11:00:44 AM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    11:00:44 AM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
    Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
    Last address to be written: 2286143 (508:01.68, 4465MB)

    11:00:44 AM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

    11:00:44 AM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
    Recorder: HP DVD Writer 640v, Media type: DVD+R

    11:00:44 AM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================

    11:00:44 AM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2286144 (2286144) = #2286144/508:1.69
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286144 blocks [HP DVD Writer 640v]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    11:00:44 AM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
    Prepare recorder [HP DVD Writer 640v] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4682022912, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
    2286144 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

    11:00:45 AM #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files started

    11:00:45 AM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4122
    Cache writing successful.

    11:00:45 AM #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files completed

    11:00:45 AM #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

    11:00:45 AM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2661
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    11:00:45 AM #21 SCSI -1066 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
    SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x0BD30600
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
    Sense Code: 0x24
    Sense Qual: 0x00
    CDB Data: 0xAD 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x08 0x04 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0B
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x24 0x00

    11:00:45 AM #22 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 659
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    11:42:12 AM #23 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
    <HP DVD Writer 640v > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2286144 (22E240h), lenght 0 blocks

    11:42:12 AM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    11:42:14 AM #25 SCSI -1135 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
    SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
    Sense Code: 0x0C
    Sense Qual: 0x00
    CDB Data: 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0B
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x00

    11:42:14 AM #26 SCSI -1176 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
    SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
    Sense Code: 0x72
    Sense Qual: 0x03
    CDB Data: 0x5B 0x01 0x06 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0B
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x72 0x03

    11:42:14 AM #27 CDR -1135 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1916
    Write error
    HP DVD Writer 640v\H2 T0

    11:42:14 AM #28 TRANSFER -24 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1916
    Could not perform end of Disc-at-once

    11:42:14 AM #29 SCSI -1176 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
    SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
    Sense Code: 0x72
    Sense Qual: 0x03
    CDB Data: 0x5B 0x01 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0B
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x72 0x03

    11:42:14 AM #30 Phase 127 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Generating DVD high compatibility borders

    11:42:15 AM #31 Phase 129 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Generating DVD borders completed successfully

    11:42:15 AM #32 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Burn process failed at 8x (11,080 KB/s)


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/4/2004 12:59:42 AM (Adapter driver for src)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)





    HELP!!!!
     
  2. LOCOENG

    LOCOENG Moderator Staff Member

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    All of these suggestions have already been given to you by alkohol in the link that you so kindly provided.

    Free up some memory. Don't multitask, disconnect from the internet and turn of any/all spyware, adware, norton's, mcafee etc. Hell you might as well just reboot first to recover some ram, and then shut down all of this stuff.

    You are burning way too close to the edge of the disc, reset target size to 4300.

    You are burning to fast, set burn speed for 4X please.

    What kind of blanks are you using.

    Again, alkohol gave you all of this advice at the link you provided.

     
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    LOCOENG Moderator Staff Member

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    See there you've gone an made creaky mad...LOL
     
  6. Zimmy75

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    Alright guys, thanks for the previous help, however, I am trying to burn movies that I have burnt before. They worked fine for me before so why the sudden problems? Here is my log for the movie that I burnt before and am now having problems with. I am using Sony media, but after trying to burn this last night I ran out and I am now burning with memorex. Both brands have worked for me before.

    here is my log:

    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 6:35:34 PM
    Nero Version: 6.6.0.18
    Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18e
    (Nero Express)
    Recorder: <HP DVD Writer 640v> Version: JOU4 - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
    Adapter driver: <> HA 2
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
    Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
    Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
    CD-ROM: <LG DVD-ROM DRN8080B>Version: 4.00 - HA 0 TA 1 - 6.6.0.18
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : HITACHI_DK23CA-20 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : LG DVD-ROM DRN8080B atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: Off
    CdRomPeripheral : TOSHIBA CD-R/RW SR-C8102 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    LG DVD-ROM DRN8080B D: CDRom1
    TOSHIBA CD-R/RW SR-C8102 E: CDRom2
    HP DVD Writer 640v F: CDRom0
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 510MB (523184kB)
    Free physical memory: 153MB (156776kB)
    Memory in use : 70 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    20.12.2005
    UDF/ISO compilation
    11:19:55 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files reallocation started

    11:19:55 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

    11:19:55 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6359
    UDF document burn settings
    ------------------------------------------
    Determine maximum speed : FALSE
    Simulate : FALSE
    Write : TRUE
    Finalize CD : TRUE
    Multisession : FALSE
    Burning mode : DAO
    Mode : 1
    UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge
    UDF Revision : 1.02
    UDF Partition Type : physical
    ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
    Character set : ISO 9660
    Joliet :FALSE
    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
    Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

    11:19:55 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files sorted

    11:19:55 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
    Reader running

    11:19:55 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
    Writer HP DVD Writer 640v running

    11:19:55 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    11:19:55 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    11:19:55 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    11:20:16 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
    Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
    Last address to be written: 2253359 (500:44.59, 4401MB)

    11:20:16 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

    11:20:16 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
    Recorder: HP DVD Writer 640v, Media type: DVD+R

    11:20:16 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================
    Insert empty disc to write to.
    (Medium in drive: Unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R DL.)

    11:20:16 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2253360 (2253360) = #2253360/500:44.60
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2253360 blocks [HP DVD Writer 640v]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    11:20:16 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
    Prepare recorder [HP DVD Writer 640v] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4614881280, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
    2253360 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

    11:20:16 PM #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files started

    11:20:16 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4122
    Cache writing successful.

    11:20:16 PM #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files completed

    11:20:16 PM #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Burn process started at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)

    11:20:16 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2661
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    11:20:16 PM #21 SCSI -1066 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
    SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x0C2A0600
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
    Sense Code: 0x24
    Sense Qual: 0x00
    CDB Data: 0xAD 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x08 0x04 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0B
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x24 0x00

    11:20:16 PM #22 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 659
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    11:23:42 PM #23 SCSI -1135 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1436
    SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x0BC20000
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
    Sense Code: 0x0C
    Sense Qual: 0x00
    CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x04 0x42 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0B
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x00

    11:23:42 PM #24 CDR -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
    Write error

    11:23:42 PM #25 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    11:23:42 PM #26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
    conversion idle, stopping reader

    11:24:18 PM #27 Phase 127 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Generating DVD high compatibility borders

    11:24:18 PM #28 Phase 129 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Generating DVD borders completed successfully

    11:24:18 PM #29 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Burn process failed at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/4/2004 12:59:42 AM (Adapter driver for src)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)


    Any suggestions would be great. Thanks guys.
     
  7. LOCOENG

    LOCOENG Moderator Staff Member

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    Nero isn't recognizing your burner, something is wrong here...it's usually Nero 7 that gives this error.

    You are almost out of memory...don't multitask during your project, backups are cpu intensive.

    Burning too close to the edge of the disc, set target size to 4300 to avoid further failures towards the end of the movie.

    It is not recommended to burn at more the 4X, the discs may say 8X or 16X etc., but really can't handle that much speed for accurate burns.

    You are asking the burner to do something that it can't, possibly those Memorex discs you are using could cause this error. You said that you've used them before, and you may get good initial results with them, but sooner or later they will fail.

    It seems that these are mostly the same answer to the same problems as in your first post in this thread, please make corrections and try again.
     
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    - latest 6.x version

    - however Nero doesn't recognise your burner

    - the burner can't recognise that disc properly, here's an example (not the best example as it's foul CMC media but it's an example) of what it should look like, ie when the firmware's up to date you see a 3line paragraph like this -
     
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    I can't believe this one got past creaky and locoeng. (been hitting the spiked nog lately guys??) its ok, team effort, im the designated driver for you drunks :)
    DMA is off on this drive. That was in the second burn log.
    This is from nero:
    Also check your aspi settings with nero info tool. You should see something like this when you check it:
    [​IMG]
    and this tab shows your DMAs
    [​IMG]
    If you get system aspi corrupted or not present try this to get them back:
    http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/aspisetup.cfm

    http://www.afterdawn.com/software/cdr_software/cdr_tools/aspi.cfm
     
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    LOL, Maxburn, ya busted me re the DMA :)
     
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    It's rare, [bold]very rare[/bold] that something gets past you in a nero log creaky. You're still the Nero log master to me, even when you hit the spiked nog :) Well, many eyes looking at a problem is better than one eye out of focus and the other staring at the burner LED.. Not that you guys do that .. Hey all you guys have a merry Xmas! I'll be trying to kill off a few more brain cells with a liberal dose of booze, and a magical pipe :) Rudolph with your nose so bright, wont you burn everyones discs tonight?
     
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    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    naw, it's not the booze, it's cus i'm always rushing to catch up with the little tikes who keep misbehaving round the forums, though i'm still trying to keep up with the never ending Nero logs. i still subscribe to virtually every Nero thread each day, just don't get to answer them all as much as i used to :)

    Have a Merry Xmas if i don't speak to you again, i'm off home now so will be back wreaking havoc round the forums in 2/3 hours; whether i'll treat myself to xmas day off the Net i don't know, don't want the little AD tikes thinking they can run amok
     
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    @MaxBurn

    About the whole DMA thing...I er, um saw it but got sidetracked *cough* opening presents *cough, cough*...LOL

    And a Happy New Year to all.
     
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    Just kidding with you guys :) We all miss things, i miss my sanity the most :p
     
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    @ LOCOENG hi :)
    you need to wrap up well before that "cough" gets to bad
    either that or DOC TY will be here administering a stiff Southern Comfort for the old vocals lol
     
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    LOL...If that's all he's prescribing I'll be on my way to the liquor store after work. I'm feeling much better though, may have only been a 24 thing or 24 minute or 24 second...I don't know...
     

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