I just made an ISO file using the "How to convert AVI files to DVD with Avi2DVD" guide, but I'm burning several hour long television shows and the ISO I create takes up more than half the DVD. Is there a guide or does someone know a way I can fit several shows on to one DVD using the ISO's and how many hour long shows could I fit on a DVD+R without losing a lot of quality?
Dvd Shrink can put multiple .iso's on a disc for you. Depending on how large the files are and how many episodes you put on a disc's depends on how much compression you want to use. Everyone has their own opinion on how much compression is too much. Depending on your tv, eyes, and personal taste. For me I try not to go under 80% in shrink "20% compressed" but that's just me. Also you can use AEC and Deep Analysis which will give you a better picture/ but take longer to analyse/encode. I usualy can fit 2-3 hours of shows on a single Dvd, with little noticable quality loss. If your not framiliar with Dvd Shrink check out the guides and download section or give me a shout and I'll send ya some links to get you going.
Awesome! Thank you so much for your help. I'm just playing with DVD shrink right now, and I'll let you know how it goes.
Hi tymad, A year or so ago I would have agreed with OU812Ono on the maximum compression with DVD Shrink without noticeable quality loss BUT with the current additions of the Deep Analysis PLUS the Quality settings, I believe you can safely push those limits to 60% (about 40% compression) without any noticeable artifacts. I routinely put 3 to 3 & 1/2 hours of decent quality video on a single-sided disc. In order to asertain any quality loss one would have to freeze a single frame OR compare a single GOP in order to sea any difference but with the naked eye. IMO, It's almost impossible to tell the difference between a 40% compression and the original when using the full corrective settings. My 2-cents, Pete
Really?! That's great! 20% compression looks like it worked just fine, but it was still pretty large. So I'll try your advice as well ScubaPete, if I can get 3 hours on one disk I'll be laughing. Thanks for all your help! Ty
One last question if I might, what would be the would be the best AEC to set it at when shrinking? Or does it depend entirely on the file I'm shrinking?
Ty, If you're referring to the coding type, I always have it set as AC3 or LPCM (default). What I would suggest, so that you don't burn to the very edge of the disc ~ set the Target DVD size to "Custom" 4360MB for all work as long as you're using decent quality media. If using crappy media, lower the size to 4200MB to keep away from the uneven dye app toward the disc's edge. As for quality, A good grade, Hi-quality media is needed for DVD reproduction ! Phillips, Fuji +R's (not the -R's), Sony, TDK, HP, "Branded" RiData Go3's, Maxell +R (not the -R's as they cannot be trusted), Sony, Ritek G04 and G05's (not the 01's or the 02's), Verbatim - DataLife, Verbatim - DataLife Plus and media boasting "Advanced Metal AZO" BUT, it must say "Advanced METAL AZO", this indicates a superior dye and dye application on a good composite disc.As a general rule, the majority of discs manufactured by Taiyo Yuden, Mitsubishi, RICOH and most Ritek are good bets. Look closely at those discs we recommended, you will see some dye types not listed by us. Those are poor risks even though they are made by the same company. Prices online from SuperMediaStore.com, Meritline.com OR Newegg.com have gotten Ritek G04 starting at about a $ .36 (USD) a disc - and just recently, a "Super Sale" had 100 Taiyo Yuden discs, 4X for $.25(USD)ea. PLUS they all have an excellent return policy. Orange Pack, Princo, Great AZO and 90% of Memorex, plus many others are just not that good for DVD burning. Those same discs however, are quite good for your MP3 music, picture archives, Spreadsheets and Data.Even DataSafe G04’s made by Ritek have been reported as an inferior quality media and are evoking that “Oh no, I shouldn’t have gotten those.” What we are suggesting is to download this DVD Identifier to find out who manufactured your DVD and if it's a decent quality. http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/ Once you have your disc identified, click the "More information" icon and see what information you're given. if you're not sure of the quality, come on back and we'll check it out for you – When shopping for discs for DVD backups, purchasing inexpensive media or even average media is a gamble, there may be one or two pple that seem to win BUT, the vast majority of pple lose, they lose varying amounts true but, they still lose :-( We put this information out to enlighten you, do with it what you will. We don't really care if you wish to throw your money away by gambling it on crappy media, after all, it is your money. The choice is, and always will be, yours. BTW, it's not time to leave just yet Ty, hang out iffin you have the time, snoop around on some of the other forums, checkout the "Safety Valve", there's usually something in the "Wacko" category going on there - OR check out our forums on Home Theater components, CD's, PS2, X-box or Gamecube topics or even Cellular phones - there's something for everybody Always feel free to stop back here at "Newbie Central," help someone else OR pickup a few more pointers or tricks to make your work a little easier and your computer work a bit better ~ (NO, somebody isn't coming by your house to type for you. That guy is booked up until somewhere around mid-June, 2009) I was suggesting something in the line of a shortcut we may have come up with (it happens from time to time) OR a new proggy you might want to try - Ya never know . . . . We'll lQQk for you later, OK ? Till then, Sea Ya ~ ~ ~> Pete )
That's a very interesting point Scuba brought up. I remember trying to use more compression back when, but now that I think about it I beleive it might of been something else giving me the crummy results. I'm going to have to give it a shot. I also will agree with what he said about crappy media. I had ALOT of different problems when I first started out using "no-name" disc's. Every burn it was something different. Once I switched to a better brand I'm at over 250+ disc's burnt without a hitch "except when I screw something up". @Scuba, I remember an older thread that said you use Tmpgenc to convert your files from .WMV to Mpeg. Do you use the CBR or VBR for encoding? I think that might of been my problem.
hi i use VBR... also you do know that avi2dvd excepts multiple avi in one go! you dont have to do them seapratly! also if you like avi2dvd try film machine, its very simarlar with a couple of nice tweak features aswell...
But when you do multiple files using AVI2DVD don't you still have to create seperate desitnations for each file? Or is it possible to create several files into one ISO image? Pete - Thank you for the great response. I definatly don't plan on going anywhere, anytime soon Currently I'm using Memorex DVD+R's for learning and plan to move to Sony or Maxwell to create my masters when I'm confident that I'm doing it properly. In regards to the AEC I was reffering to the Hight Quality Adaptive Error Compensation when using DVD Shrink. The default is set at Sharp, but I also have the option of using Maximum Sharp, Smooth, and Maximum smooth. Does changing this have any kind of noticable effect on the over all outcome? Or does it simply depend on my preferance?
Here are some threads that talk about the different settings with Shrink: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/190918 http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/103119 http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/100778
hi you can load say 3 avi at once in avi2dvd it will make 1 film (1 set of vob/ifo/bup) then burn to dvdr! they will play one after the other though! but make sure its not over 4.36gig or you will have to compress before burning!
Well after some searching on the AVI2DVD forum I think I've finally figured out how it's done! And it was so blisteringly easy that I was just about floored when I managed to figure it out.
hi @ tymad click the help button, then read the info there... ;-]) and if you want a menu use tmpgenc dvd author but do the avi separately then load all 3
Hi Rotary, I just didn't realize it was as simple as having the files named in consecutive order, and they will simply load themselves. After figuring that out it all seemed to come together... Haha and now reading back on a couple of forums as well as the Help section for the actual proggy it all makes sense. Thanks so much for all your guys help!
@Ty, For what it's worth, I was a Beta-tester for DVD Shrink and especially for the Quality enhancement settings for the last few months of work on this latest version and found the following: The use of Deep Analysis proves it's worth on any DVD requiring compression. Sharp and Smooth, settings not much difference. Maximum Smoothness took the most time and seamed excellent for your average DVD. Paycheck, When Harry met Sally, etc. Maximum Sharpness took slightly less time but produced a better quality for DVD's with a lot of action scenes like Batman Begins, the Matrix etc AND seemed to give a sharper picture when used for movies with a lot of special effects i.e., Praetor vs. Alien. Pumpkinhead (with a lot of "foggy scenes which used to create the most artifacts.) After the testing was finished, the end of September, 2004, I began leaving my settings at Maximum Sharpness and have been happy ever since. Once again, always running DVD Shrink's Deep Analysis. A final note: Using any of these settings on the old Black & White classics such as The Creature from the Black Lagoon and The Incredible Shrink Man (one of my personal choices to honor Mr. DVD Shrink) proved to be unnecessary. For one - the old classics are all about 3 GB and therefore provide a perfect 1:1 backup and 2, B & W doesn't seem to be affected by the enhancement settings. I only mention this because of Mel Brook's offering of a larger B & W movie, which was not effected by the enhancements either. I hope this will be of some help, Cheers, Pete
Excellent, that's great to know, that's an awesome breakdown. I didn't even think of factors like fog definition...
