hey does anyone no how i can put songs on to the pc off cd then put them on my mp3 player by not using windows media player.
You could try Musicmatch Jukebox from http://www.musicmatch.com/ It has various plug-ins so you might need to download the one compatible with your mp3 player so that you can transfer from your pc to your mp3 player.
Use Exact audio copy. Getting started guide is here: http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/mydeneaclame.cfm best ripping software on the planet. You should be able to just drag & drop the songs over in 'My computer', unless you are using an iPod...