MPEG 4 (H.264) Playback on Windows Media Player 10

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  1. shakim

    shakim Regular member

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    I have converted some DVD over to the new H.264 format using Nero Digital. I have the full version of nero on my home pc so there is no problem playing it in Window Media player because the codec is still enabled. But when I try to play it at work which doesn't have nero installed, it prompts me with a codec error. There trial version of nero showtime CE has expired. It plays fine in quicktime. I just wanted to find a way to play it in Window Media Player. Why? Because I like the feature where you can dock it on the task bar and watch it as a small thumbnail while still working.
     
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    Try ffdshow and haali's splitter.
     
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    I installed the latest version of Nero 7 utra ed. Now when I try to play my the .mp4 files in Windows media player, i get a codec error. The files play fine in quicktime and in Nero's showtime. It played fine before.

    P.S i installed the ffdshow codec and still the file doesn't play in Media Player 10.
     
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    Nero 7 has many bugs still left in it. the best thing to do is give it a few weeks to months for the problems to be worked out, then give v. 7 a try. downgrade back to v. 6 and see if that fixes your problem.

    as to the problem of playing the file at your work: i dunno. you need a good set of codecs. if you can't install your version of Nero on a work computer, i doubt you can install much of anything else. you might be out of luck here. but then again, i'm in desperate need of sleep and probably missed something. good luck; i'll check back after some z's and see if there's anything i can think of.
     
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    shakim Regular member

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    After installing ffdshow on my work machine everything works fine. This is a new issue. I had Nero 6 on my home machine and everything was great. Now, I updated to Nero 7 and my Windows Mida player doesn't play the .mp4 files. But the files do play in Nero Showtime and Quicktime.
     
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    that's because Nero 7 still has many problems with it. the best thing to do at this point would be to completely remove it and downgrade to Nero 6. wait a few weeks/months, then upgrade to Nero 7 again (with the bugs worked out).
     
  7. shakim

    shakim Regular member

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    I installed FFDShow codec on my pc. How can I get Window Media player 10 to use this to play the h.264 (mpg4) files. Everytime it looks for the codec then a messages saying codec downloading error. WEll isn't that codec in FFDShow? Then it starts playing as if it was an song file??????.
     
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    ffdshow needs to be enabled to handle h.264/AVC, also it is just a decoder it needs a splitter to parse the video stream before it can decode it.

    Nero comes with its own splitter and decoders, they however don't like you to use them via 3rd party software. You used to be able to use Nero's filters to encode in graphedit, then if you changed graphedit to recode.exe it would work, now I think not at all. The playback filters I think used to work fine in other players, then they worked but with features disabled, perhaps with Nero 7 they don't work outside of showtime?
     
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    shakim Regular member

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    After searching for days and installing and uninstalling every codec under the sun I finally found one that works.

    Cole2k.Media.-.Codec.Pack.V6.00.Standard

    This works great.
     
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    Probably because it installs ffdshow and haali's splitter.
     
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    Here is something odd. At work I had Nero 6 installed which has Showtime , the Nero Video Player. It played the H.264 files fine until the trial expired. Then I installed FFDShow (Nero 6 trial was still installed, just expired). Now Window Media Player played it fine.

    Now at home I have Nero 7 retail version installed but Window Media 10 doesn't play the file. Then I installed FFDShow, still didn't play. Finally unistalled FFDSHow and installed Cole2k codec and it played.

    Is it okay to say that the new version of Nero 7 blocks third party software such as WMP10 from using it's splitter. What do you guys think?
     
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    seems it's the Nero7 "nero video decoder" that can't be used in directshow. It will not play h.264 or divx content in directshow. Tested with Zoom Player.

    Nero6 worked fine.

    you can however use the Nero7 "nero digital parser" in directshow. i have tested it with h.264 .mp4 and divx .avi files. the parser will of course have to be followed by ffdshow in your graph to actually decode the stream

    the Nero7 "Nero Quicktime video decoder" does however still work through DirectShow

    post edited after further testing.
     
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2005

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