MS Ban Hammer - 10.30.09

and just funny enough, you will also notice, it is not the "upper members" that get banned...

 

Thanx for the feedback,its been of great help.

One last question,tho.Lets say i have another console which is exactly similiar to my original console(flashed,never connected to live after flash,played some unverified backups,etc.).Will it be a valid assumption that the original console is permanently banned if installation fails on the other??

Amen to that.

 

Hmmm, i wonder why? lol

Im willing to bet money that the people getting banned are saying they never played games unverified, prereleased, etc and its all bull. Im not saying that theyre lying, im just saying that along down the road one time they did make a mistake and just havent realized it. We gotta be perfect with the steps we take. OCD!!!!!

And its true, i started reading through all the posts here and its all skippable material. All the same blah blah. Lets leave this thread open for new developments but please no more noob theories.

 

I think M$ built a tiny night vision camera into the laser of the DVD drive so they can access it and see if it is a retail game or backup.

Sorry goyankees had to get 1 more theory in.

 

Yea, because we all know how long you've been on this site reflects your knowledge of console modding.

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/683746

There you have two "high ranking" members of this site saying the new Lite-On drive (in June of 2008) would never be flashable.

 

No.

The install feature is only disabled on a console if and when you try and connect it to Xbox Live and you get a message saying that that console is banned - it's at that exact point that the install feature is disabled in the dashboard on that particular console. Even if that happened, you could still connect that hard drive to an unbanned console and it would function as normal. MS aren't doing anything to the hard drive. They are doing something to the dashboard to prevent you from installing games, but it only affects that banned console, and it only happens once you've have tried to connect that console to Live and you've received the "This console has been banned....." message.

Think about it - If you don't try and connect your console to Live, how could they possibly remotely disable the install feature? It's just not possible, so there is only one way that it can happen and that is by connecting that console to Xbox Live and finding out that you're banned.

 

You should due a little more research. Way back when that post was made, it was still believed that the LO drive used a "read-only" chip. So up until then, they were correct.

 

Can there be a poll of how many were banned. Actually it would be biased because most only come out of the woodwork when something bad comes along.

 

I've read through this whole thread as I am going to mod my 360 soon (I'm waiting for the USB Xtractor to come in for my Lite On)and I've thought this same thing about 7 pages ago.

 

I'll rep the upper members here because I've gotten so much helpful advice from these threads. Unless anyone gets a definite trend they notice (Instead of random things they don't notice) or anyone knows someone directly involved with M$ then it's probably best to go with the common precautionary measures for the time being instead of assuming wild conspiracy theories or pointing fingers without contributing anything useful.

 

And the same thing is happening now with these new Lite-On's. People are screaming and crying because most of them can't be flashed. Eventually, someone will find a way to do it.

 

Just as a point of interest, some people are saying they are rechecking their ODST, NFS Shift and Brutal Legend games with ABGX, and they are failing.

Is anyone who's banned rechecking their disks?

 

ah i see it now.Kinda stupid of me thinkin that M$ found sum way to put a ban flag into a system update.thanx again,tho

 

I have only rechecked a disc once because the buffer had dropped really low. Usually I let the computer do it's thing but I had to check an important e-mail. I should really start from here on out regardless.

 

Well, you can't call it the same thing. I haven't read anyone saying these new versions of the LO will never be cracked. But yeah, you're right, there will always be some who will complain that the team just doesn't work fast enough. That's just the nature of the web. Those who feel entitled will always come crawling out of the woodwork.

The iX team just has their hands full. They've got 2 new versions of LO drives and now wave 4 all within a short time span.

 

I've just rechecked those 3 games out of interest and all 3 verify perfectly when checked from disc, as they should, so nothing has changed in the abgx360 database. If the ISO verified and the burn does not, then it's probably down to a bad burn or deterioration of the media (the latter being highly doubtful after such a short time though) causing data corruption.

I would imagine that a 360 DVD drive that's on the way out would report similar issues though, or even an original disc that's badly scratched, so I would be highly sceptical over MS using this as criteria for a ban. Even if your theory is valid, there is nothing special about those 3 games in particular because they all check out for me and some people that haven't played any of those games have been banned, so it would apply to any burned game.

Only one "high ranking" member said that. Homesick said that it could take days, months, or it may never happen. He wasn't wrong and in fact, his was the best answer. Only PS2Menace out and out said it will NEVER happen, but no offence to him or anyone else, but the member rankings are based on the number of posts you make, not how much you know. Who here is always right about everything anyway? Nobody. You're being picky just for the sake of it.

 

Instead of going back and forth about this how can we take out the last update so we can install to the hard drive again. And for the record I never played a game early or played one before abgx cleared it. ||We all dont play the same games so maybe M$ planted a game that would flag them on the torrent sites. Who knows but if anyone can tell me how to delete the last update that would be great.

 

Also one other thing when your system gets banned you can no longer use Media Center or TVersity.

 

Lol, I don't think I've ever seen leerage be wrong.

 

Was wondering if TVersity would be blocked. What a bunch of crap. I guess if I ever get banned I will have to take out the old Xbox 1 or use the Wii with USB HDD.