MS Ban Hammer - 10.30.09

Could it be possible he bought an 360 that someone gutted/swapped/exchanged for a non-modded one?

 

Thats exactly what i was thinking...how long have you had the console? and where was it purchased?

 

I think that flashed firmware is always detectable. I read lots of posts about how challenge response times differ from a non-flashed dvd drive and other possible detectable differences.

But if microsoft is smart, they can always detect different firmware.

example in bytes:
Original firmware: 010101010101
Flashed firmware: 010101110101

How can you even make custom firmware without having a different kinda checksum compared to the original firmware?

 

could be, there are people out there saying that they will gut a box and return to the store for a refund, i think if you are caught doing that you should get all that is coming to you as unsuspecting people like myrddinwy think they're getting something thats legit and it isn't.

 

Think about what you have to go through in order to dump the firmware. MS would have to do it the same way.

That's why MS isn't directly reading firmware.

 

Again, I have to interject when I read just bad noob posts.

Do you know anything about IT or flashing? The firmware is LOCKED OUT! Microsoft can't just probe your console and get a checksum of your drive's firmware. They CANNOT detect firmware natively.

As I have said many many times, if you would heave search for anything, Microsoft left themselves a backdoor by doing and issuing challenges to the drive. But just probing the drive and getting the firmware, not possible.

 

I would imagine then that if M$ are issuing challenges this is why C4e can develop a new firmware (the lt)that closely mimics the original and be safe. Should it pass all challenges and the firmware cannot be directly read that there will be some hope for future modding. Now if only we could have a simple way to unban!

 

THIS is the theory that makes the most sense. However, I doubt its even a back door. What is highly likely is that one of the recent live updates included what is typically referred to as an "agent." This agent is installed on the console and immediately starts issuing challenges to the drive and recording the results. These results are then uploaded once the user logs in, and once evaluated, the serial for the console is flagged.

More than likely, this all happens automatically once the the live update is downloaded. The agent does its thing (regardless of the user being online/offline), records the results, and waits for the user to login. As someone who does work in IT, the use of agents is typical in a batch processing configuration for a network with a distributed architecture.

In theory, this agent could have been on our console the entire time, or installed with any one of the recent live updates. As for the time variations between people getting banned, more than likely its due to the variations in the results. Results that are extreme outliers are banned immediately, while those with slight variations are evaluated over time. In the end, the results will always be the same.

 

Yes. It does work, I saved my hard-drive functionality using this method. BUT, you have to first disable the auto sign-in feature on your gamertag, and do the test WITHOUT signing into live. If you see the code mentioned above, DO NOT sign into live with ANY profile from that console EVER AGAIN.

Bottom line, if you do this and it works, you have yourself an offline console.

EDIT: There are now reports that this method isnt working either. Please note that I did this on Friday, 11/13. I have not tried it since then. It IS possible that the loophole has been since been corrected.

 

it gives the error on backups and retail games. so if your saying someone modded their 360 and then didnt play any games at all not even retail i have a hard time beleiving that cause why did they buy a 360 and not a dvd player?

you guys can check here the offical site for ixtreme LT http://ixtremelt.com/ixtremelt.html check the faq

 

Sorry but, many people have confirmed this. They wanted to see if it was the fw or not so a guy on my site left it on for 3 days and was banned. Never played a game, dvd, nothing. Kept it in dashboard for 3 days.

 

so that guy bought a brand new 360 just to mod and connect? feel sorry for that poor bastard wasting 200+dollars

 

Right.
i have two xboxs, one was modded from new (UNUSED), the other was modded only a couple months back.

The one that was modded a couple months back is banned, the one that was modded before using it is unbanned, i used the same method for 2 friends of mine and we all seem to be the only ones on our friends list who have not been banned

Maybe its a coincidence? idk.

Just my two cents. The agent theory seems to have merit, seen as me and my friends are still playing backups daily?

 

You do realize that if the agent theory is indeed true, and you do go on live, its only a matter of time for your unbanned consoles. A lot of people have been saying that the bans only happen once a year, but if this theory hold true, everyone will be at risk once they download the required live updates, no matter what time of year.

 

Oh, sorry.. i thought that it only logged changes in firmware, i.e. an upgrade or mod after initial use.

We'll see tomorrow i guess - after the update, prepared for the worst though so im not too bothered.

 

You are right, I don't know anything about flashing a dvd drive. But I do know there are simple applications for both windows and dos that can update firmware software on the dvd drive. I guess it is about the same thing as flashing a BIOS ROM?

Why would it be IMPOSSIBLE for microsoft to read there own firmware checksums? They cannot install a small piece of code with a dashboard update to read your firmware and send it on your next live connect?
Maybe you can explain the noob then

 

Is banhammer over now?!

 

Dont connect your xbox kiddo, youll get hammered

 

I got banend ages ago. I'm just asking