My DVDs made with ILO DVDRHD04 skip

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  1. boogieted

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    I have searched through several forum pages, but can't exactly find someone who's having the same problems as I am with my Ilo DVDRHD04. I purchased this unit brand new about a year ago from an Ebay dealer. I have not used it very often because I have Dish DVR also. But back in the spring I recorded a TV movie from my DVR to my DVDRHD04 hard drive. Later I copied it to an Ilo brand DVD disc. (I purchased the Ilo discs because I figured they must be compatible due to being the same brand). When I later tried to play this DVD on another DVD player I began to experience a problem that has plagued me ever since. The DVD would play ok for about the first hour of the program, and then it would start skipping forward a few minutes. Once it started, it became impossible to watch the program because it would keep getting worse. I did not try burning any more DVDs for several months because I was too busy to mess with it. So about 2 weeks ago, I decided I needed to start archiving some TV shows and movies onto DVD. I tried making one, and during playback I still experienced the same skipping problems at about the 1 hour mark. I took the DVD to another player and experienced similar problems. I sent one of my home-made discs home with a friend, and they said it wouldn't play at all on their player. I called tech support at Ilo, and they told me NOT to use the Ilo discs! So I tried a Memorex, and all the same skipping problems are there during playback. Come on!? Not compatible with Memorex either? I have always checked for firmware updates, and have installed them on the machine. So I'm wondering--do I just have a crappy recorder? I called Ilo again yesterday, and they sent me to the 2nd level of tech support. They blame the media that I'm using, and suggested some rare off-brand that I've never heard of (Ridata?) They are sending me some sample disks to try and get a good recording before calling them back. They also suggested I clean the lens, but I really doubt that's the problem. I wondered if anyone else had these same skipping experiences, and if it was true that I need to use only the discs that Ilo recommends. It seems that most of you who post on this forum and own the DVDRHD04 are very happy with it. I want to be like you!! I know that this was a long rambling post, but maybe with your help it can assist some others who are struggling to produce good error-free recordings like me. Any advice you can offer is greatly appreciated.
     
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    Well, at least in theory ilo branded discs should be ok. That is until we dig a little further into things like exactly what company makes them for ilo. Guess what ... CMC Magnetics Corp makes 'em for ilo. CMC Magnetics Corp fto those informed about quality media, is a very bad word in discs. One of the worst. And guess what else ... Memorex also uses CMC Magnetics extensively for their media manufacturing. My suggestion to you is to get some Verbatim discs (my LiteOn LVW-5005 loves 'em, and LiteOn makes the ilo04) Best buy has them 50 for $17.99 and Office Depot has them 100 for $34.99 this week. This should solve your problems.

    Good luck and happy burning!
     
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    Thanks! But has anyone else had these issues I've described with the DVDRHD04-made dvds skipping during play? I really find it hard to believe that the media has something to do with it. Other ideas, folks?
    Thanks.
     
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    ROFLMFAO! Believe it. The number one problem in the recording process is CRAPPY MEDIA I've been burning discs for a number of years now and I've used tons of different blank DVDs. My experience has been, (and this is with both set top recorders and PC writers) poor recording results, poor compatibility, freezing and pixelation is 99% of the time due to .... drum roll ... CRAPPY MEDIA
    And, the #1 source of CRAPPY MEDIA is CMC Magnetics Corp!!

    And you can take that to the bank!
     
  5. kivory666

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    @boogieted

    my buddy catfreak is DEFINITELY right here, as hard as it might be to "believe", the #1 cause of pixellation, freezing, skipping, with YOUR current issues with playback, IS due to your choice of media~ :)

    as catfreak pointed out, CMC MAG is one of THE worst manufacturers of dvd media today, until they start to improve their quality control, i will continue to strongly suggest to people having playback issues, such as the ones your are experiencing, to try BETTER/quality media~ :)

    i would suggest Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim as my choices to offer you...catfreak already pointed out good deals/sales regarding the Verbatim discs; you will see a world of difference in your recorded video on the ILO dvdrhd04~ :)

    if you are also willing to purchase discs online, then Taiyo Yuden (making sure you buy from a REPUTABLE online retailer) will also fix your problems with the playback...suggested online retailers would be www.supermediastore.com, www.meritline.com, and www.rima.com for the Taiyo Yuden discs~ :)

    quality media makes THE difference, trust me, i've burned THOUSANDS of dvd backups in the last few years and have only tested and tried 2 companies that ALWAYS stand the test of time~ :) those 2 being...Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim~ :)

    the Taiyo Yudens or "TYs" for short, are ALWAYS "made in japan", these discs are superior to the ILo brand you used as well as the Memorex discs you tried. Verbatim discs are usually found to be "made in taiwan", these are one of the FEW discs that i do recommend being from taiwan as the place of origin...Ritek Ridata (the brand that you mentioned earlier) is the only other suggestion that is made in taiwan, that i have had a lot of success with. :)

    do yourself a favor, and use the "good stuff" as per my signature...you will be giving yourself a LOT LESS headache and frustration later down the line with your burns...

    have a good one

    docTY~
     
  6. LCSHG

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    Have a DVDRHD04 and used Verbatim +RW disks for almost a year
    [ In this Machine ] Not One Problem
     
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    Should add to my previous post

    A neighbor wanted me to dub some VHS to DVD and supplied me with 100 Memorex +RW disks. I have recorded 36 of these. So far no proplems in the ilo or in other machines.
     
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    Have you run those Memorex +RW discs trough an identifier yet? I'm pretty sure that they are either ProDisc or CMC Mag ...
     
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    [ catfreek ]

    No; I'm sure you are right. As I said in a previous post I use the Verbatim +RW disks and feel that they are reliable. I would not use the Memoroex disk but my neighbor bought and wanted them because, the dealer said they were the best, [his problem ]. I only posted that result because it seemed that [boogieted] was having problems with many disks. That seemed to me, either a improper use in recording or of an equipment problem, Some disks would not be to my liking, but I don't think they would all fail.

    I Use the Verbatim disks because they are reliable, In some 400 recordings, not counting the weekly recordings off air, not one problem, There are those that have been erased and reused over and over again, no problems
     
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    I do lots of off-the-air recording myself. I feel that the disc quality is even more important doing recording this way. When you back up a DVD, you can always re-do it in the future if you suffer a failure. But recording 'live' stuff, you only get one chance! I'm sold on +R and +RW Verbatim discs for my set top LiteOn recorders, while I've been using the MIJ Fuji discs for my PC writers ...

    TY and Verbatim +R discs are the best. Verbatim +RW and +R DL are the best. The only thing that CMC Mag Crap discs are good for is that they give us something to bitch about when we're bored ...
     
  11. boogieted

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    I'd like to thank catfreak and everybody else who responded to my original post. Ilo sent me 2 blank Ritek Ridata DVD+R discs to try in my recorder. It worked!!!!!! I re-recorded 2 movies that had originally skipped with the Ilo and Memorex discs. They played all the way through on the Ritek discs with NO PROBLEMS! I had been skeptical that the media was the issue, especially since one that I used was Memorex, a long-established reputable company whose cd-r's and flash drives I use all the time with great results. But that WAS apparently the difficulty, and I'm just relieved that there is evidently nothing wrong with my Ilo recorder. :)

    I also appreciate kivory666's advice on media brands--thanks. I am ordering some Verbatim DVD+R discs. I do have a question, though: Is there a particular speed (8x? 16x?) that I should buy for best results with my Ilo? It seems that the support technician at Ilo said something to me about that, but I don't remember if it really mattered or not. --Thanks
     
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    My LiteOn (maker of the 04) really doesn't care what the speed of the media is that I record with .. just make sure that your firmware is up to date otherwise you may have problems with the 16x stuff
     
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    Media can be important but I don't believe like the others, no offense meant, that this is your problem. I disagree that media is 99% of the problem although it is an integral part. What bothers me is you say it worked before, this indicates that it is a dirty or a weak laser and this tend to be the number one issue I run into with people having problems so cleaning the laser is a good approach. If that doesn't work you can try to turn the power up on the laser but this isn't typically a good approach. You could try burning to an RW and ripping it with DVDFab Express to a new DVDR, I do this with my LiteOn LVW-5001 which has similar issues to yours. I use Fab as it seems to burn more compatibly then programs like CloneDVD2 which I also love.

    Good luck...
     

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