My on the fly copies work, But my own authors dont.

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by mikeyUK, Dec 11, 2002.

  1. mikeyUK

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    Hi,
    I have a head busting problem and wonder if u guys out there could help me solve.
    All these guides and solutions are mind numbing. My problem;
    If I simply copy a dvd-5, on the fly using nero, which has no protection on it, it copies and plays on my pc and standalone fine, no problem ;-)

    But when I rip a movie and author it myself it plays in power dvd fine but not on my standalone. This is how I am doing it.
    1. Ripping just the main movie,using the stream process to get the main movie and its main 5:1 soundtrack.It gives me one ifo file. no subs.
    2. Starting up ifoedit, loading the first main movie VOB and press create ifo files. Its takes a while but when its finished it gives me new ifo and bup files. 2 of each.
    3. Closing down ifodeit, reopening it and loading in the two new ifo's it gave me and pressing 'Get VTS sectors' then it creates two new ifo's wiping over the old ones. Ok.
    4. I test the movie I have just authored by starting up power dvd and loading in either of the two ifo files, its seems to work no matter which ifo file u open. And the movie plays fine ;-). Chapters everything.

    5. Burning. I use the nero 55917 and simply click on DVD video, it creates a VIDEO_TS and a AUDIO_TS folder for you and I dump the contents of my movie into the video ts folder. Then click burn. Nero tells me no files needed modified.

    Results, play in power dvd no problem but not on my standalone ;-(. I must be going wrong somewhere.
    Please help I on the virge of giving up, I have sat at this computer for nearly a week now going round in circles. Any input would be appreciated. MikeUK, Newbie.
     
  2. malum

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    Do you know for a fact that your stanalone can play DVD-R's?
     
  3. mikeyUK

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    Yes,
    because when I copy a dvd-5 on the fly, which I dont have to rip and create ifo files for, it plays no problem. So my standalone definately play dvd-r's and it is ok with the media I am using.
     
  4. malum

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    Have you tried demuxing the video and audio from (do it as it rips) and then authoring using IFOedit?

    I have found that the Ifo's created by IFOedit using the process you describe to be variable in their usability

    What's more if it's a DVD 5 then you shouldn't need to create new ifo's so maybe try that was well.
     
  5. mikeyUK

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    Thanks for your advice malum.
    I just got a dvd to work on my standalone, yipeee, or so I thought.
    It worked ok, but when I tried skipping to the next chapter it started skiping all over the place. Next chapter, previous chapter, blocks coming on the screen.
    I got the dvd to play on my standalone by creating a dvd image using ifo edit. Then burning it back with De crypter.
    It still playing fine on the pc.
    Back to the drawing board I think ;-(
     
  6. mikeyUK

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    Oh yeah, Malum I have tried demuxing the video and audio as it rips then authroing it with ifo edit, can do that no probs. 'get vts sectors' and all.
    The problem i think is in the burning. Its the way nero burns the discs. Nero doesn't seem to be giving my dvd a title to recognise. Plays in power dvd fine but not in standalone.
     
  7. malum

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    I meant demuxing reauthoring and then burning to see if that worked.

    The chapter problem you describe I get if I rename vobs and then have ifoedit create ifo's for them. The way I work around it is to then click VOB extras and have ifoedit recreate the VOB's in another folder.

    What media are you using and have you tried others? Some standalones are fussy
     
  8. mikeyUK

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    Thanks Malum for your replies, appreciated.
    I'm happy to say I have cracked it. You were right about how I was creating ifo's the wrong way. Demuxing and then authoring with ifo edit gave perfect results.
    Only one more thing before I can say I'really happy.
    Is there anyway of keeping the originals chapter points from the main movie into my new authored one ? Thanks once again
     
  9. malum

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    Yes
    If I tried to tell you off the top of my head I'd get it wrong though, so I'll try and remember to post a link later.

    Basically though you save the cell times as a txt file from the original ifo file and import it at the authoring stage with IFOedit
     
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  11. mikeyUK

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    Thanks Mallum.
     
  12. MrFixit

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    "...If I simply copy a dvd-5, on the fly using nero, which has no protection on it, it copies and plays on my pc and standalone fine, no problem"

    You mean to tell me you put your DVD in one drive, your blank DVD in the other, and Nero lets you burn it?? Thats it? thats all?? I thought burning DVD-videos on the fly was IMPOSSIBLE...please explain..
     
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    If they aren't encrypted it shouldn't be a problem to copy on the fly
     
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    Oh, I was under the impression that all DVD movies were encrypted -- hense why it can be a pain in the butt to make back-ups. Is there any way to tell which DVDs are encrypted and which are not?
     
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    They are
     
  16. mikeyUK

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    Mr fix-it yes there is a way to tell.
    Run DVD encrypter to look at the dvd in question. When it loads up and reads all the files that are to be read. It tells you near the top whether or not the disc is encrypted and if it is not you can simply copy it straight on the fly no probs. As long as it is under 4.37 gig of course.
     

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