I am just curious as to the logic of providers moving from Nag 1-2-3. Currently, as I understand it, some channels have moved from Nag 1 to 2, while the accepted theory is that eventually all will move to Nag 3 (or perhaps only the premium channels). On the basis that it costs to implement each and every change of new software, why for eg would I install MS Office XP, if eventually I wanted to install MS Office 2007? I might go that step route if I want to move to MS 2007 in 3-4 years, but I'd hardly install MS XP if I was only going to use it for 6mths. Would the same logic not apply to Nag2 to Nag3?
UPC is using n1 n2 n3 side by side in multicrypt mode. If n1 is nomore needed for a package because all subscribers with n1 cards got n3 cards they simply switch off n1 for that package. Same for n2. N2 cards were installed with the Thomson pvr boxes and the new UPC media boxes from end of 2007 on.
is the general consensus that they will switch to N3 once they feel enough customers have N3 cards? a piece of string is just that but can anyone take a stab at how long before they go N3?
I think that everybody will have to have a new card. I mean they can't switch while some customers have the old card as they would not be able to view the channels when the switch is made and you would not stand for that if you were paying a subscription. As to how long it will take, well that is anyones guess. I received my notification that I will be receiving my new card within the next month and I am in Swords on MMDS.
None of the providers can switch to N3 unless ALL their subscribers have up dated their receivers and cards. Then they usually start switching to the new encryption slowly by testing on groups of channels. DN started by switching the XXX channels to N3 first. If all works well with those they usually go with the PPV channels next and then all the rest of the pay channels like HBO, Showtime,etc. Finally they switch over all the rest of the channels. As to Ryand2 question as to why they went N1--N2--and now N3, its to stop piracy and free reception of channels through the use of aftermarket equipment. They are just trying to protect their investment. However, as good as the the encryption writers are for the providers, the other guys have code writers just as good to decrypt the signal. Too early to say if N3 can be broken but rumors are it shouldn't be a problem. Jerry
bdale2, to get a "fix" for Nagra 2, they're going to need to dump a Nagra 2 card from UPC, any UPC N2 card currently in circulation cannot be dumped easily, and someone will need to create a script capable of dumping one which is not an easy task. It is possible to dump parts of older Nagra 2 cards, which is most likely how KV's are still up and running, but any N2 card that has been used in the last 7 months or so will not be the revision that is partially dumpable.
N2 has been fixed for several years, I think you mean N3 which is the new one they are just starting to use. You need to understand how the game is played. The sat providers are just starting to use N3 on a few channels. If someone came out with a FIX right now that would show the providers that their new encryption isn't that good. So they would go back to the drawing board and start all over again. My guess is that the fix-it guys are waiting for N3 to be used across the board before they show their hand that they can defeat it. Thats just a guess but thats how I would play out my hand.
there is a fix out the kryptview box is working 100% on N2 just the rest of the manufacturers have not followed suit thats all
