Need Help buring a DVD+R DL to another DVD+DL Black disc

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  1. AnilRana

    AnilRana Member

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    I am having problems buring DVD+R DL disc (Wedding video) to another blank DVD+DL disc to make multiple copies. I am using Nero 7.0. My burner is SOny. When nero tries to read the disc it gives me Faild reading error at about 60% of the read. Can anybody help me figure out a way for me to make multiple copies of this DVD+R DL disc, THanks in Advance for helping.
     
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    Hello AnilRana.

    Try ripping the disk with DVD Decrypter:

    http://filehippo.com/download_dvd_decrypter/

    Under the Mode menu, set the mode to ISO Read, select the location for the copied DVD image, and click the DVD icon to start the process.

    If that's successful:

    Set the mode to ISO Write, select the MDS companion file to the ripped DVD image file, insert bank media, and click the hard drive icon to start the burn.

    The above assumes you want a DL copy. Be sure to use Verbatim +R DL media as that is the best, make sure your burner's firmware is up to date, and make sure your burner is capable of booktyping +R DL media as DVD-ROM.

    If DVD Decrypter doesn't read the disk, it's possible the disk is defective or dirty or a poor quality burn was made upon poor quality media. You can always try cleaning the disk with eyeglass cleaning solution or trying a different drive for reading. Some drives are better readers than others.

    Asd a last resort, you can try ISOBuster: http://www.isobuster.com.

    Nero isn't the best program to use to do copies of DL media.

    If you tell us the model number of your Sony burner we can help you locate the most up to date firmware and the booktyping utility if needed.
     
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    Thanks for the reply. I tried DVD Decrypter and i updated my DVD burner's Firmware from Sony's support website. I still get a sector reading error, uncorrectable error. My Dvd burner is Sony DRX 800 UL. I'm not sure what you mean by booktyping, can you explain that to me. The DVD (wedding DVD) is readable in all my DVD players but can not be read in my drive when i attempt to back it up on another DVD+R DL. ANy other suggestions. Perhaps i should try to see if i can get another DVD Buner and play the DVD on the new burn and record on the SOny, will that help? Thanks in Advance for all your help.

     
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    Hello again, AnilRana.

    Standalone players have error correcting routines and are much more tolerant of errors and disk defects than dvd burners.

    Do you have any friends with computers that you could see if their drive can read the disk? Otherwise try ISOBuster. Does anyone else have a copy you can borrow?

    http://www.isobuster.com

    Booktyping is something that can be done with +R media only. By booktyping to DVD-ROM, many DVD players are tricked into thinking the disk is a commercially pressed disk and they will play it. Otherwise, "older" players may not recognize and play the burner DL disk at all. Your Sony 800 is actually a Lite-On 1693 so you should be able to use the Lite-On booktyping utility to enable booktyping if not already enabled.

    Utility: http://www.liteonit.com/global/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=153

    Guide: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=109986#media-bs
     
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    Hi, thanks once again.

    I tried using another DVD burner and i get the same probelm. It seems like when the disc is about to switch to the 2nd layer thats when the sector error occurs. I also downloaded isobuster program, but i dont know what to do with it. Please explain to me how i should use that program to fix the error. It seems like im only having problems from DVD+R DL. other disc that were DVD-R were fine when i burned them. thanks
     
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    DL disks can be tricky and there is a large difference in quality among the manufacturers. The only decent quality double layer disks are those made by Verbatim, specifically the +R DL media. They are the only ones that seem to get decent quality scores. I use nothing else but those for DL burning.

    Download ISOBuster.
    Install ISOBuster.
    Open ISOBuster. It'll be in trial mode since you don' have a serial number.
    Place DVD into drive.
    Tell ISOBuster to open ISO file and point to DVD disk in burner.
    ISOBuster will display a VIDEO_TS folder on the righthand window.
    Copy this folder to your hard drive, i.e., just drag the folder to your desktop. It will be the contents of your DVD that ISOBuster was able to retrieve.

    Use Nero to make an ISO image of this folder of video files, i.e., select the Image Recorder as the output device.

    Use DVD Decrypter or ImgBurn to burn the ISO file created by Nero.

    Nero does a poor job of burning DL media imo so that's why I'm suggesting using one of the other programs for the actual burning.

    http://www.imgburn.com
    http://www.filehippo.com/download_dvd_decrypter/

    Good luck and I hope ISOBuster will get your video files retrieved.

    Is there no one else with a copy of this DVD? That'd still be the best approach.
     
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    Thanks alot, will try today.
     
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    I was able to extract the DVD on my hard drive with ISOBuster. Then i tried to make and ISO image of this folder of the video files by selecting the image recoder, but i think i didnt do it correctly becuase i see two files in the folder that i saved the image. (1) Image file and (2)Image.iso file. The Image.iso has the windows icon and is 1.02 GB big and the Image file is 3.99 GB. The total DVD was 5.02GB. When application in nero do i use to make a ISO image?

    When i tried to use the DVD Decrypter to write the Image and iso file, it only recongized the Image (3.99 BG) file and not the ISO file (1.02). There fore im afraid that if i write on the DVD the file wont be completed and the DVD will be missing alot of the imformation from the orginal. Any idea what i did wrong. Perhaps i made the image file incorrectly? Thanks

     
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    What is the size of the VIDEO_TS folder from ISO Buster? If the original disk is a dual layer disk then the folder size likely will be in excess of 4GB.

    Nero Burning ROM or Nero Express can be used to create the ISO.

    http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_tools/folder2iso.cfm

    Make a new folder on your HD and give it a name you'll remember. Name your ISO file you'll be creating something unique like weddingredux to distinuish it from other ISOs and save it to the folder you created. This way anything in that folder pertains to the DVD. Depending on your disk file management system you could end up with two iso files labeled 1 and 2 but there should also be an MDS file as well if that's the case.

    To burn, you have to select the MDS file if one is present, otherwise just the ISO file.

    You m ight want to buy a RW disk to use for experimenting until this gets sorted out.

     
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    i am able to select the ISO file but, when i select the MDS file it says its an invalid format. Is there another way so that i can select the iso and MDS file so i dont loose any content of the DVD?

    When i click on the ISO image file, it takes me to nero burner and shows me that that there is 5.2 GB of content. Where as when i used DVD Decrypter it only said about 4.1 GB of content.

    In nero it said it would burn the disc with ISO format. do i need to change that back to VOB for the DVD to be played in stand along DVD players?
     
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    VOB is converted into an ISO just prior to burning. VOB is the DVD in file/folder format and ISO is a bit by bit image of the burned DVD. Nero will accept either as input for burning. Other programs like DVD Decrypter, etc. only accept ISO files as input.

    I'm assuming you ended up with only a single ISO file as well as an accompanying mds file. Is this correct?

    Here's something to try. Since you have Nero, execute the ImageDrive program and mount the wedding DVD ISO you created as a virtual DVD. Play this mounted ISO/DVD and see if it is the entire wedding DVD or not.

     
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    I have 2 question one related too this thread and one thats not.

    The first is on a duallayer disk it is actual size is 8.5Gig right.

    my next question is I have ben burning on a standalone machine and the are regular 4.7 standard single disk if this is so why does my computer say that I have recorded over 10 Gigs on these disk and I know its the setting I use the quality setting but why when I do a disk of my own using nero I cant get the quality that I get from the standalone recorder because its much better even when I use 6 hour setting.


    Another thing why do you need other programs like dvd thrink if you use a DL disk you dont need too shrink anything.
     
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    Most people are using DVD Shrink to compress files to fit a single layer DVD5 disk. DVD5s cost 25-30 cents. Dual layer blanks are $2. Most main titles will fit onto a DVD5 with little or no compression. Many don't care about backing up the extras.

    If you're burning AVIs with Nero, you're starting with poorer quality video to begin with so the resultant quality will be on par with that.

    One can sometimes obtain erroneous size measures of disks created on standalones. When I read folders from my standalone, everything is doubled because of the way the recorder structures its directory. In other words if I have three titles, it'll display 6 titles in the directory, even though three are duplicates of the others.

    Dual layer disks can contain around 8GB of actual content after overhead.
     

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