Nero 7 - How to replace the audio track of a .AVI movie

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  1. papatalie

    papatalie Member

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    I have a .avi movie (video codec: DivX 5.0; Audio codec: Mpeg 1 Layer 3 according to GSpot).
    As the sound was really horrible (old movie full of background noise), I created a new separate mp3 file with my audio editor. The result, after a noise reduction session, is now quite good and acceptable.
    My question now is: Is it possible with Nero 7 to replace the audio track(s) within the avi movie file with my new mp3 file which is, of course, of the same length as the movie? If yes, how to do that?
    Thanking you for your reply.
     
  2. Saltgrass

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    It seems to me in order to do what you want, you need to recode the video where it has no sound or no sound component. Just turning down the volume would leave the extra information you don't need to encode.

    I have tried finding a utility in Nero that would do this, but I don't see one. There does seem to be several other utilities that would take an .avi file and break it into components, or remove the audio. Do a Google search for that. One I saw was Virtual Dub or something, but I can't recommend anything myself. Once you get the sound in separate components or audio free, NeroVision can add audio tracks to it.

    Maybe the audio forum would have more info.
     
  3. papatalie

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    Thank you Saltgrass. I managed to do it, nae bother.
    For info to other users, here's what I did, bearing in mind that I'm far from being an Audio specialist nor having used VirtualDub before:
    1) I downloaded VirtualDub rev. 1.6.14.
    2) I converted my audio MP3 file into a WAV one.
    3) opened VirtualDub, had a quick browse and:
    - selected "Direct Stream Copy" on the Video tab,
    - selected my WAV file with "Wave Audio ..." on the Audio tab and
    - selected "Save as AVI ..." on the File tab to save/create my new movie with a much improved and good sound.
    Simple as that.
    In conclusion, I'd like to express my disappointment to the Nero team for not providing such a feature which is, I believe, very basic to me.
    Hope now that Nero will not pop up any nasty error message during the transcoding into VOB files.
    Thanks again
     
  4. Ratae

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    Actually, Nero can do this, you have done the hard work in processing your audio file. All you need to do is open your NeroVision, select "Make A Movie", insert your movie into the timeline, then double-click your soundfile. Nero will insert the soundfile into the timeline beneath your movie. On the timeline, right-click your movie, select "properties" then adjust the volume to zero, so that the only soundtrack left is your processed one. Then just process as normal to DVD.
     
  5. gwendolin

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    @ Ratae,

    I have 2 movies, one of excellent quality however in a foreign language...the 2nd movie (same title) poor quality but in english dialogue...this movie is an animated movie...using your method is it possible to replace the foreign dialogue with the english dialogue thus making 1 good quality english dialogue animated movie??

    I am amazed at the feature you have pointed out, I was NOT aware of it...live and learn.

    BTW...you know that if you say yes, then I'm going to ask you how to do it, Cheers
     
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  6. Saltgrass

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    You might want to keep in mind, that even if the volume is 0, there is still an audio track that will be encoded. I assume it will take more space and time. It might be interesting to do it both ways to see if there is any difference.
     
  7. Ratae

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    @ Saltgrass: yes, there is an audio track to be encoded - but still only one!.Nero will mix the two together, making a single soundtrack, which will, of course, be encoded to the same file size. With regard to extra processing time, in my experience this will not be noticeable if it occurs at all.

    @ Gwendoline:..what you ask is possible, although not necessarily easy!...The main problem I can see is if the two movie prints are not identical then synching the soundtrack could be very difficult. How to do it?...Well, all I can do is relate how I would do it....I download a lot of movies in avi format, and as a matter of routine extract the soundtrack to normalize and enhance and then re-mix with Nero. Unfortunately, as far as I know (and I would love someone to prove me wrong!), it isn't possible to strip a soundtrack from a movie using Nero, so alternative software has to be used. Anyway, basically, this is what I'd do:


    1) Import movie into Nero, using the "Make DVD" > "DVD - Video" > "Add Video Files"options.
    2) Select the "Export" option, and configure the output file to confirm the video mode (ie NTSC or PAL), SmartEncode to Automatic, aspect ratio Automatic, Quality setting to suit your movie, sample format Automatic, High Quality encoding mode and the audio format set to stereo (latest nero releasde) or LPCM (I think!) for earlier releases. Export the movie.
    This will take some time to encode, and will produce a new DVD compliant mpg file.Repeat the process with the other movie, making sure all the settings are identical.
    The reason why I always export like this first is because if anything should go wrong, or I make a mistake later on, Nero has already processed the video and won't have to do it again. Enabling the SmartEncode feature later, will mean that subsequent processing for burning will take a fraction of the time (with my system between 25 and 35 minutes). Also, I take the soundtrack from this .mpg - because the original video file has already been processed to DVD format, it greatly reduces any sound synch problems, because you'll be synching to the actual video file rather than , say, an avi that still has to be processed. Reduces the margin of error, in other words.

    This is where I leave Nero - to rip the soundtrack I use TMPGEnc 3.0 EXpress, and rip it to a DVD compliant wave file.
    To edit the wav file. I use SounForge, although Nero has a sound editor which is probably just as good.
    Now the hard part - synching the soundfile to the video. A test of patience and endurance! Unfortunately, I find the preview window in Nero too small to be of much use when checking for sound synch, and I don't think it's very good anyway - I use TMPGENC Express again, because it's real-time previews are excellent. Whatever you use to preview, you'll need to load your "Good" mpg file, and the load your "Good" soundfile, but all I can do is explain what I do with the software that I use - there must be many ways of skinning this cat!
    Checking the video file with the new sopundtrack, any alterations to synch the 2 together are done in the sound editor - this can mean stecthing/shrinking the soundfile, or simply inserting/deleting parts to force synchronization. This is why I use TMPG - because I have never had a movie "un-synch" itself - if it previews good in TMPG, it'll burn good! Then it's just the monotonous "edit wav, save, preview, edit, save, preview" until you get it right - but it does get a lot easier with experience.

    Ok, then "all" you have to do is to mix the new soundtrack with nero as described in the previous post.

    I know this is't the best description, I know there are lots of different ways to do the same thing, I know it sounds complicated, but taking it step by step it isn't really, but it does require patience. If you're very lucky, you won't need to edit your new soundtrack at all - anyway, good luck and I hope I haven't put you off, because the end product can be really rewarding!

     
  8. gwendolin

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    @Ratae, Wow, thanks for that, I have printed it out and will give it a try, it's an animated movie so no big problem if sound track lags a little.
    It may take me a while but I will let you know how things go, Cheers.
     
  9. Ratae

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    @ Gwendolin:
    Sorry,I forgot to mention, you should rip/save your .wav files to DVD compliant format, ie 48000 kHZ frequency, 16 bit 2 channel stereo. Sorry about the oversight!
    Good Luck!
     

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