nero burning rom with multiple burners

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  1. mrmanny

    mrmanny Member

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    when using nero burning rom the first time after a computer reboot can multiple burn to 3 external burners sucessfully. but if i exit program then reenter later cannot use it as it reports cannot fixiate external burners. any suggestions?
     
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    Can Windows (or your OS, if your not using Windows) see the DVD burners? If your using Windows, are the burners still located in My Computer? Can you remove them via safely remove hardware?

    If you can see them in My Computer and under safely remove hardware have you tried removing them via it and reconnecting them manually? This sometimes fixes the problem.

    Also, what version of Nero are you using?
     
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    i like nero 6.6.0.18 but updated and nero 7 versions behave the same. i see the burners in my computer and they work the very first time after a complete computer reboot. tried removing drivers and reinstalling a few times and about everything else i can think of. deleting nero with clean tool and reinstalling does not fix this problem so assume it has something to do with file corruption when exiting nero burning rom. havent mailed nero yet about this but thought somebody would have some clues. thanks.
     
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    Have you tired using different software? Just to see if the burners are part of the problem and not Nero? The built-in Windows burner program is garbage so don't try that. :p

    I would recommend trying ImgBurn if your burning DVD movies. Unless your burning data and not movies, if thats the case I would try some other software, except I am sure what to recommend, sorry.
     
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  5. mrmanny

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    thanks for the response. have used 2 lg5163 burners, hp 540, a lite-on and a lacie d2 with same result. saw some references to imgburn in other threads so have to check it out on the net. yes burning movies. 99% are foreign soap operas and have done about 2000 using shrink, dvdfab and nero with no problem other than multiple burning. since it works after the initial installation presume it is something lost after exiting or something not clearing. guess next step is to contact nero.
     
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    Your welcome for the response. :)

    I would first give ImgBurn a try before contacting Nero's support.

    You can get ImgBurn right here at aD, just click this link.

    You can have DVD Shrink create an ISO (Sorry, you probably already know this! :p) and then use ImgBurn to burn it to a DVD. Imgburn is extremely similar to DVD Decrypter (same author and all, its basically DVD Decrypter minus the ripper).

    Let me know how it goes! :)
     
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  7. mrmanny

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    okay thanks for the link to imgburn which i downloaded. now have to figure out how to use it. not sure it supports multiple burning as that is the issue. looked at nero faq and they have a jungle of info that leads nowhere.
     
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    Pop_Smith-
    I also have a similar problem with Nero 6.6.0.18. The main problem is that it does not detect both of my burners, and the other is that I can no longer select the write speed. I can use ImgBurn, but for some reason I can not select the speed I want on the Nero. This happened once before and I did an uninstall then reinstall to fix the problem.

    I would like to find out what is causing this problem to occur. If you or mrmanny find out anything please let me know.

    Thank you!
     
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    for sysguns - i have found that burners are very sensitive to blank media in regards to burning speed, maxell 16x white face being the worse and only goes 2.4x. this may be why you cant set the speeds. the speed window in nero will grey out. try vebatim 16x or sony 16x or imitation 8x. my lg burners will only do 2x with the sonys but 16x with verbatim. you will probably find the burners never get up to 16x while writing anyway and for reliability just use 6x or 8x. if your burners are internal you may be having dma problems. dma does not apply to external burners. if your burners cannot be found try removing the drivers and reinstall them.
    r click burner in my computer, l click properties, l click hardware, scroll to burner, l click properties, r click driver, r click uninstall, follow the prompts. after restart computer plug in burner and you will get a fresh reinstall.
     
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    mrmanny-
    The DVDs I use are TY. The other day I selected the drive from Nero and it said the material was too large to fit on the disk. I have my Recode2 and Shrink set to output 4460 MB. That is why I am wondering what caused this to start happening.

    I will give the uninstall/reinstall a try. I rarely get to burn with my Liteon drive because it doesn't show up in Nero. Maybe that will fix that problem.

    Thank you for the reply!
     
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    I had a similar problem when I was burning mostly on my laptop with an LG 5163D, Plextor 740UF, LiteOn 1693SX, and a couple of external HDs.... It's been a while, and I never figured it out completely. First off, my USB 2.0 would not support two simultaneous burns at 8X (Bandwidth/throughput issue as it's hard to get that burst rate with USB 2.0 PLUS: the more USB 2.0 devices, the lower the bandwidth/throughput for each device). I stopped trying to figure it out and just connected one of the externals via firewire and had success. Keep in mind, though, that if the data is coming from an external HD which is connected via USB 2.0 also, then, you really haven't gotten much farther as far as shared bandwidth/throughput is concerned.


    Disclaimer: This is a rather crude explanation on my part as I am not an expert. I am just sharing what little I pieced together. I now use my laptop for low or no compression movies and my new desktop for the heavy lifting... Hopefully, the gurus will chime in and give you some REAL help. Good Luck!!!

    EDIT: Oh yeah; the above was not even relevant to your question. What I left out was that, with my setup, I noticed that the more devices that I connected; the more frequently devices would just "disappear."
     
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    for sysguns and teflonmyk
    you might want to try dvdshrink to cut the data down to size. nero will only shrink to about 67% roughly. i have had a lot of foreign video encoded with elby clone dvd that just will not shrink even tho they show up as 3.71gb and dont know why. that is a german (i think) software which seems to be popular in japan. but you know shrinking a video excessivly will give you a pixilated picture expecially when there is motion in the scene. also you can use dvd shrink to remove the parts of the video you dont need and its more versitile than nero in that respect. i've never had a problem where the pc cant find the dvd burners so haven't a clue why that should happen. only thing i can think of is they may have been disabled. if you feel confident go to control panel, computer management, and device manager and/or disc manager so see about that.
     
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    I got Nero to burn to 3 external burners successfully by switching from an hp 840,lite-on ez-dub and a la cie d2 to the combination of 2 identical lg 5163 with the lite-on ez-dub. nero wants the burners to be fairly similar apparently. with the original combination it would work once after a computer reboot but never again.
     
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    - nah, i've used various different burners together, some USB2.0 and internal. I guess i'm lucky as i've got Belkin USB enclosures which are 100% reliable, not all USB enclosures are equal unfortunately.
     
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    thats interesting. i knew it had to do with the hardware more than anything because it worked fine with music cd using 4 different burners.

    as a side note i see nero 6.6 will not work with the new windows vista os...this according to microsoft.
     
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    that's ok, Vista is going nowhere near ANY of my PC's, so my Nero 6.6.0.18 is safe :p
     
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    i see you used belkin enclousres so assume you purchased internal burners and enclosed them yourself. i bought external drives already enclosed... they are a more expensive that way but didnt anticipate hardware problems due to this.
     
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    yeah, i like to pick all my own parts, i just use bog-standard cd or dvd burners in my enclosures.. if a burner fails (happens now and then) i just get another bog-standard drive :)
     
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    thanks for the response. I'm a late starter...two years experience this month...senior citizen. everything i learned so far has been in the school of hard (computer) knocks. no teenagers or grandkids to give instructions, no formal training. i survived windows me and two ancient pc's but feel pretty confortable now. i also prefer nero 6.6.0.18. tried trial version of nero 7 and dislike everything new they did to it. bloated.
     
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    Well you sound like you know a fair bit then, what with Windows Me being crap & Nero 6.6.0.18 being very good :)
    Hope you like it here, some of us are here virtually every day, it gets very hectic around here
     

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