Nero Recode won't shrink video enough

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  1. lance37

    lance37 Member

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    I made a DVD Video and created a DVD image with Nero Vision. The image is 7.52GB and I'm trying to fit it on a DVD5. I load the image into Nero Recode and have fit to target checked. It shows that it will shrink it to 4613MB. If I try to burn it to a disk, then it says there is not enough room. The quality sliders are as low as they will go. The menus is at 58.4% (15MB) and the movie is at 58.7% (4599MB). Isn't a DVD5 4.7GB? Isn't 4613MB equal to about 4.5GB? Why won't it fit? How can I get it to fit?
     
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    Hi lance37
    A DVD5 is actually 4.38 gig - a little misleading from the 4.7 listed on the DVD. In the computer world a gig is 1024 meg.
    Depending on what the quality was like when you converted this files in Vision you're looking at some heavy compression and probably lower quality.
    If you have a dual layer drive you're probably better off burning this project to a DVD 9 (will hold 7.95 gig).

    If you have any audios you can remove - remove them - may get the project size down low enuf to fit.

    If not and you need to use a DVD5 then you can try saving it to hard drive folder in Recode. Then run that back again thru Recode and it should now fit but quality will suffer.
    I would also suggest checking 'advanced analysis'. Will take longer but may help the video quality.
     
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    Thanks for the response. I may try running it through Recode twice like you said and see if the quality is still good enough. Isn't Recode supposed to take a full DVD9 and shrink it to fit on a DVD5 without much noticeable loss of quality? Also, why do DVD5's say 4.7GB if they are not?
     
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    Recode will try and fit a DVD9 to a DVD5 - difference in quality between the 2 well any time you compress you will lose some quality. But the quality difference can be in the eye of the beholder and/or what you will be watching it on.
    Smaller TV's - may not notice but go to the larger ones or zoom in and you will probably see the loss of quality.
    Why the manufacturers say 4.7 is probably because they are rounding down to 1000 megs instead of the true size of 1024 megs per gig. But the programs you use know what the true size is so will adjust the compression accordingly.
     
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    DVD data areas are divided up into sectors. Each sector has a 2,048 byte capacity. There are about 2.3 million sectors on a blank DVD+R.

    For example, a 4.7 GB DVD+R disc:

    2,048 bytes/sector x 2,295,104 sectors = 4,700,372,992 bytes.
    This rounds to roughly 4.7 GB [bold] (decimal notation).[/bold]

    Of course decimal notation is going to show a larger end number than if you would count the same number of bytes in typical computerese binary notation.

    In decimal systems, kilo stands for 1,000, but in binary systems, a kilo is 1,024 (2 to the 10th power). Technically, therefore, a kilobyte is 1,024 bytes, but it is often used loosely as a synonym for 1,000 bytes.
    What it boils down to is that the disc manufacturers base the size on the package as a decimal number based on the sector count. This results in a decimal number. Because we deal with binary data we have to do a bit of converting to get the binary size of the blank. This turns out to be about 4.38 GB of binary data.
     
  6. Trbl

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    My friend tried to copy a 1:26 hr. movie with Nero Smart start and it toldhim that he did not have enough time on the dvd which was a 2 hr. DVD. We're new to this and are having some difficulties. Any other advice welcome also and I thank you I thank you in advance. :)
     
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    Inspite of the 4.7mb a 1:26Hr. movie should fit on a 2 hr DVD even if it does come up a little short, right? He has neuro smart start and it has most of the programs in it and had it working right up until now. What cold possibly go wrong? :)
     
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    Depends on the bitrate of the video more than the actual running time. I don't know if this is a commercial movie, something that has been downloaded or camcorder footage. Some more compression may help the movie to fit though.
    I'd try processing it with NeroVision to a hard drive folder and then running it through Recode or Shrink and see if that will help it to fit.

    If it is already in DVD-Video format (A VIDEO_TS folder with .ifos, .bups, and .vobs) open it with Recode and that should let you fit it to a DVD-5.
     
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    I'm sorta having the same problem except I'm trying to burn 5 episodes episodes of lost which are 43 minutes each onto a dvd. When I set the setting to fit to disk it shows 4.37 of 4.38Gb. However, when it transcodes it it spits out the dvd and says not enough room. Tried with custom and had it down to 3.87Gb and the same problem. Ran the program again and tried put it onto the HD and the file size was 10.1 Gb. Now isn't fit to disk supposed to fit to disk? And, isn't 3.87Gb way less than 10.1? PLeaaaaase help. I am lost because you know at lat I thought my math was right.
     

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