New format called HVD

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  1. Neuromods

    Neuromods Member

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    Before I posted on a new format but didn't have much information. On Japanese TV this morning they showed exactly what it is. HVD (Hollographic video disc) is a new format which can hold upto 200 DVD's or 40 Blu Ray disc on one single disc. The quality is supposed to be way better than blu ray and at the moment they are only going to sell it to TV stations. The price for a player now, $30,000 !!!
     
  2. varnull

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    Probably like u-matic video it will stay in the domain of the broadcasters and professionals.
     
  3. mike.m

    mike.m Regular member

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    Hopefully something like this comes to consumers soon, cause I bet there are a lot of people out there, including myself, that don't want to jump into blu-ray just yet. With toshiba coming out with another "blu-ray killer", and since there are discs already made such as PCD, HVD, and SVOD that are way superior than blu-ray will ever be, sorry but you have to be an idiot to think that blu-ray will last long.

    PCD - up to 50 terabytes
    HVD - 3.9 terabytes
    SVOD - 1 terabyte
    HDS - 1 terabyte
    Blu-ray - 50Gb(dual layer)
    HVC - 30Gb (3x faster write speed than blu-ray) (size of a credit card)
    need I say more?
     
  4. mack786

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    LOL wtf are you smoking? Let me guess you bought a HD-DVD player and you now regret it because HD-DVD got crushed by blu-ray?

    The crap that Toshiba are putting out is just an upconverting player it's hardly going to dent Blu-ray.

    The majority of the formats you mentioned above won't even be around for long and your talking about PCD discs but PCD disks are dead:

    http://www.answers.com/topic/protein-coated-disc

    That technology is already dead in the water and you think it's going to supplant blu-ray?

    The really funny thing is all the hardware manufacturers have invented tens of billions in blu-ray and you think theyr just going to dump the format like that to take up some bs theoretical technology that is a decade or two away from even existing let alone being in commercial use?

    HVD is the only format on that list that is finding some success and thats because it provides great storage requirements for corporations.

    According to the HVD forum they won't try for a non-corporate market for at least ten years since they need to get the format settled and bring down production costs so from the guys behind the format itself it's obvious it isn't going to be a competitor to any commercial format for a long time.

    The toughest fight Blu-ray has on its hand is DVD and when it supplants DVD it will reign supreme for a very long time.

    It's really simple economics if you increase the amount of players on the market you increase the amount of potential sales. Your better off with supporting an older more mainstream technology than a expensive limited technology.

    Example in case CD vs SACD. SACD is obviously superior but it's a waste of time when you consider how widespread CD is.
     
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  5. brucedlx

    brucedlx Regular member

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    Don't worry folks

    I've read into these formats, sorry but these are WAY off into the future, some of them are not even alive.

    IF any of these would come to fruition, by that time bluray would have already had it's run. As the op said, a player costs 30 grand. You think something like that will be brought to market in time to squash blu-ray?
     
  6. mike.m

    mike.m Regular member

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    mack786, what I ment was since blu-ray is taking over dvd, whose to say that something new won't take over blu-ray? Technology is advancing all the time, for example, if newer technology comes out, I'm pretty sure their are many consumers out their that will always want to have that 'new technology', just like how many consumers are moving from dvd to blu-ray.

    And no, I have never own a hd-dvd player, and to show you that im not bias, I do have a PS3, but I don't want to jump into blu-ray just yet, like many others out there.
     
  7. JaguarGod

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    HVD will not fly (in Hollywood at least) because of the lack of DRM support. Pricing is not the issue. The media is roughly 1/2 the price of Blu-Ray (per GB) and the drive is around $8,000 - $15,000 and it is NOT being mass produced. If they wanted to mass produce this tech, it would probably be around $700 - $1000 for the drive and $35 for the media by now.

    There is also the card drive. I believe that one is somewhere under $2000 for the drive and $1 for 30GB cards. Potentially a much better option than Blu-Ray because of the price of media.

    Also, HD video with D5 compression would take roughly 285GB of space for a 2 hour movie. That would be 6 Dual Layer BD-R vs one 300GB HVD. Alternately, it would take up 7/24 of a 1TB HVD, which means you can store 411 minutes of D5 HD per disc.
     

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