New User for xcopy (but tech saavy) - Movie (copy) stalls.

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  1. buzzlo11

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    New DVD 8X +-R Burner 8x, Liteonit.
    Xcopy 4.0.3.8

    The Media I used was Memorex +R.

    At first, I thought maybe it was the DVD Burner, but it plays the original fine.

    I used the Xpress way to make a DVD copy....took about 1 hour or so for the Harry Potter Movie (that I have, original, non-rented)...(not to savvy with settings though)...

    Anyway, it doesn't copy the menu system, just the movie and scenes....however, the movie stalls and is thus unstable.

    Anyone know what I did wrong? Perhaps?

    Thanks
     
  2. Ni4ni

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    Did you check "Entire disk"?
    Try different media for the "stalls" problem
     
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    hey

    just a suggestion but most of the people on this forum use -R for movies (me included), that could be a problem

    but Ni4ni's suggestion was very right did u check "entire Disk" mode?

    and one more thing thats nagging at the back on my mind well a two parter

    does it play well in your DVD Player? (the one on your tv)

    and

    Does it do it all the time or only this one time?

    have u tryed it before? (how new are you to the prog)

    and one more thing (lol, i know i am asking a lot of questions) just a little question but were u running any antivirus or firewall services at the time?

    Dean
     
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    ok, first, I will try -R discs today and I did not check the entire disk....so I will try that too.

    Also, it's as a Slave drive, but does anyone's computer SLOW to a crawl when burning? i.e. you can't do anything else (browse internet, etc)? I had this problem with CDR burning too.

    will let you know how the next one turns out..

    thanks
     
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    You really should not be using anything on the computer while burning.
     
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    When you are burning make sure you have everything else turned off, go into msconfig and shut down unnecessary applications.
    Burning DVDs uses lots of your computer's resources and it should be left alone during the process.
     
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    Hi Ni4ni,
    You beat me to it! :D
     
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    also, is xcopy the best to use? Will there be future updates? I thought they couldn't sell it anymore.

    Also, this is going to sound dumb, as I think I know the anwser, but is the DVD copy-back up screen part of the attempt to appease the entertainment business? If so, if there are rulings against xcopy, shouldn't they take off that screen and say, well the heck with it then? (grin)..

    PS, have you noticed we see commercials now at the movies? I didn't pay for that.
     
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    I have Xcopy but never use it, I don't care for the warning and the tracking data that gets put on the disc. I also like to see whats going on and have a bit more control. Other than that I think its a quality product.

    They can sell the portion that does the compression and burning, they just won't be able to provide a decryption feature. I think they can remove the warnings as their products can't copy encrypted movies anymore.
    They got a lot of work to do if they want to compete directly with Ahead and the others. I hope people don't lose jobs.

    They won't be able to sell their castrated version for the same price either.

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    OK, well I tried it again with -R type, and "complete" disk checked (Chicago-7.x gigs) and it played back fine on the PC, although I wasn't to sure about the quality, I thought it looked a little pixelated.

    Sure enough, when I put it in my Panasonic DVD Player (less than one year old), it stalled, and was pixelated.

    It would not play in the PS2.

    The only things left to try (with Xcopy anyway) are::
    1) try it again with +R and complete disc checked....
    2) try a different media..(actually the +R that I will try tom., will be a different brand.

    any other suggestions??

    PS, for the most part, I think I have most of the neccesary "background" services off, etc.

     
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    Thanks, I looked at this program and I don't see that windows XP can be used...does enditall work?

    Anyway, do you think it's the media? Does Xcopy work to make a qualitty burn?? When do they have to stop making it with the ripper?

    Also, are there other programs that work? Does Ahead Nero work, I have Nero but have never tried the dvd copy section.

    You don't think it's the burner do you ? Liteonit, 811S, 8X DVD +-R, RW.

    thanks again
     
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    Enditall works fine with XP. Xcopy works finebut you need a ripper with the RF version. I use DVD43.
    You can use DVD Shrink with Nero, that works good also.
     
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    buzzlo11
    I see from your original post that your burner is 8x. Are you trying the burns with 8x media?

    If so I would suggest slowing down. There have been a lot of problems reported trying to burn at fast speeds. Even if the burn is sucessful, many set top players can't read a disc burned at 4x or faster. [bold]Remember, slow and steady.[/bold]

    Also keep in mind the Xpress copies just the movie only. You can select a soundtrack and wide or full screen but that's it. There is a good chance that your poor quality picture is being caused by over compression as HP is a large movie.

    let us know what happens,
    max
     
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    No, all media has been 4X.

    Also, the last movie I tried (4X, and used -R, Xpress), was "Chicago".

    Using XPRESS and checking ENTIRE disc burned the complete disc WITH MENU, SCENE, etc. Plays fine on PC DVD, but pixealated, stalled on Panasonic high end DVD player, as well as DID NOTHING on PS2.

    So, any other suggestions, before attempting to copy another movie????

    thanks
     
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    OK, am trying DVD shrink now (doesn't seem to technical at all...), so we'll see how that goes....removed a few things (from Monsters) think that the compression is 53%.

    I should use NERO to burn? Or can Shrink do this?

    Also, since most dvd have the dual layer, (7.xx gigs) there is no way ((yet)) to burn a full DVD to another DVD right with ZERO compression?? It's something like EMPTY space to impeed DVD backups.

    I will try Xpress again, once someone suggests some other way...

    Ways done so far...
    I.
    Movie: H. Potter II
    MEDIA +R,
    4X, Speed (Using Xpress, didn't choose burn speed, so am unsure....
    Complete Disc NOT checked.
    Result: Movie skipped, stalled, in both PC and DVD player.

    II.
    Movie: Chicago
    MEDIA -R
    4X, Speed (Using Xpress, didn't choose burn speed, so am unsure....
    Complete Disc WAS checked
    Result: Movie played fine on PC DVD, but stalled and pixelated on Panasonic DVD.

    III. Presently using shrink DVD, removed anything needed to make it NON-RED.
    Will use NERO to burn, unless I hear otherwise in the next few minutes.
    Media Burned will be -R

    thanks
     
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    buzzlo11;
    What brand media are you using? Try to get some Ritek -R with G04 dye,things should be OK then if its a media problem. Ispy
     
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    Memorex...

    Will use Nero to burn to DVD-R Memorex from DVD Shrink files.

    I also have one DVD +R (4X) Imation....will try that next.

    Then, I will try other medias...

    Not much to choose from at local stores (best buy, circuit city......, TDK, Imation, Memorex...)
     
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    Oppps, nevermind, Shrink is burning the disc directly after placing all the files in my directory (nice)...didn't expect that. If asked automatically for a disc to write to, I chose all the correct options as well, 30mm, slow, etc.

    will see what happens, then will try NERO if that fails.

    errr, slow meaning 4X
     
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