Newb question- yes im embarrassed.

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  1. limelight

    limelight Regular member

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    Dont worry, its quick:

    single layer disc 4.7gb so i should burn only 4.3gb...

    What is the target filesize for a DL disc?
     
  2. gwendolin

    gwendolin Senior member

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    By using DVDShrink you can fit more than the 4.7g for a DL it's around 9g., but once again using Shrink you can exceed that.
     
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    binkie7 Moderator Staff Member

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    A single layer (dvd-5) holds up to 4.38 gig - a dual layer (dvd-9) will hold 7.95 gig.
    You can lower your target size in Shrink so that you don't burn to the edge of the disc.
     
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    gwendolin Senior member

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    @binkie7, well I learn things every day, I thought DL held 9g, hence calling it DVD9

    @limelight, sorry for the wrong info, now I feel embarrased.
     
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    binkie7 Moderator Staff Member

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    No need to feel embarrassed - it's deceiving. They calculate w/ 1000 mbs to a gig when for computers it's really 1024 mb per gig.
     
  6. ireland

    ireland Active member

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    But for a couple of your concerns, there is one thing I would like to point out.

    The DVD size is based on a 1000 based system rather then 1024 (which is the true size system) I do not agree personally that DVDs should be labeled 4.7GB, as they only truely hole 4.36GB. Let me do some math for you to explain a little better.

    1000 based system
    1000bytes/1Kb
    1000Kb/1Mb
    1000Mb/1Gb

    so according to this system the DVD should have 4.7 Billion bytes of information.

    Now lets take that number and put it into the true size specifications

    1024bytes/1Kb
    1024Kb/1MB
    1024MB/1GB

    so 1024³x4.7

    this is equal to 5046586572.8 bytes

    but a dvd only holds 4.7 billion bytes, so we work out

    4,700,000,000
    /
    1024³
    =
    4.37.........ect

    now count in lead in/out and minus about .01GB for that, So by true size specifications, the accual amount of data that can be held onto a DVD is 4.36GB with lead in and out (for compatibility).
     
  7. gwendolin

    gwendolin Senior member

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    @ireland, thats exactly what I thought. You could have shown some pics on how you worked it out though, Cheers
     
  8. limelight

    limelight Regular member

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    So to confirm, the target filesize for DL discs so that there wont be any audio/video sync errors is 7.9gb correct?
     
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    binkie7 Moderator Staff Member

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    Give or take a meg to compensate for the lead in/lead out as ireland pointed out.
    The the program you are using will know the target size & the max amount that can written. Just pick which you will be using DVD-5 or DVD-9.

    The audio/video sync sounds like another problem. Are you converting like .avi's etc or making backups of original dvd's?

    edit: spelling
     
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    limelight Regular member

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    backups of dvds. im trying to do tv shows on 2 dl discs.
     
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    binkie7 Moderator Staff Member

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    The audio sync problem can be media and/or burn speed. Which media gave you this problem? What program did you use?
     
  12. limelight

    limelight Regular member

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    No issues, but simply put:

    single sided dvd+r: 4.7gb(advertised), actual burning capacity->4.3gb.
    Double sided DVD+DL: 8.5gb(advertised), actual burning capacity->?????
     
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    LOCOENG Moderator Staff Member

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    7.9 gigs for DVD-9(Dual Layer).
     
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    limelight Regular member

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    Great. Thank you very much!
     
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    LOCOENG Moderator Staff Member

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    You are very welcome...
     

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