you'd have to PAY ME to take those Office Max dvds off your hands on ebay~ throw in free shipping and i might consider it...LOL docTY~
CRAIGERR- Verbatim is also excellent so you have done well young Jedi! LOL! A general rule you may want to follow is to look as we said previously for media that is MIJ = Made in Japan and generalizing again it tends to be better quality than Taiwan made media ! There are a couple exceptions to this rule ! Verbatims are Mainly made in Taiwan And are excellent ! Ritek Media is also made in taiwan and seems to have a good reputation and are sometimes slightly less expensive than Taiyo Yuden Or VERBATIMS Ritek also OEM's DVD Media for OFFICEDEPOT - Not Officemax & you can often find that on sale too! also some maxell media is Also OEM'ed by ritek as well ! I have bought a quantity of ritek / Maxell media but have'nt gotten to them yet ! but from what I understand Riteks are a viable 3rd option to Verbatim & Taiyo Yudens ! but as long as your happy with Taiyo yudens & verbatims You'll get no argument from me ! hope you enjoy your disc & newfound hobby Good Luck & Happy Burning!
ARRGGHHHH Riddle me this Batman.. I am all ready to hang around while I try these new verbatims.. I decide to burn some DATA and back up my hard drive before I try the movie thang.. I put the Verbatim DVD+R into DVD Rom and open nero and dump like 3 gig of hard drive back up data onto the Verb.. something I have done tons of times with Nero and have burned the sony=ty at 8 X .. that is up to what my burner will support 8X..I go to adjust the speed for the burn and the highest it will go is 2.4 GRRRRRRRRR so I am like WTF!!! So I put in the Verbatim DVD-R that says right on the disk that it is certified 16X I check the speed and it shows I have a choice between 2.4X and 4X.. No Higher... Frustrated I abort the DATA and try the movie back up thing.. I already have a movie ripped to HDD that I own and tried to back up with the OFFICE MAX Crap brand and failed so I direct Clone DVD2 to the folder select 8X put the Verbatim DVD+R back in and hit burn..It burns the back up in 12 minutes,at 8X ...Perfect.. I have gone further down the pack and they all will burn a data disk with Nero at only 2.4X.. Granted, I still have the SonyDVD+Rs I can use for DATA by WTF??? Are some machines just more compatible with different brands than others?? This is the first time I have ever had a limitation on speed especially when it is a certified 16X disc.. BTW the amout I put on the disc made no difference.. 5 meg or 3 gig still only burns data at 2.4X... one thang after another it seems.. Craig
very interesting sig. pic. u got there CRAIG~ is that a "beaverpose" i c there? LOL or am i just imagining things this early in the morning? anyways, EXACTLY as Induna above me suggested, it's THE FIRMWARE~! firmware teaches your drive to recognize/read/write/etc. to the newer higher speed rated discs, and in YOUR case, with it being the 16x Verbatims, i am almost 100% sure that your drive can NOT currently recognize/detect this "newer/faster rated" media~ hence, why you are restricted to burning at such a SLOWWWWWWWw speed...2.4x is NOT acceptable to ME PERSONALLY on single layer discs, on dvd+r DLs, that's a diff. story, but on 4.7gb Verbs or Taiyo Yudens, definitely NOT~! as he mentioned, need the make and model number of your drive...you need to update the firmware for you to be able to burn faster~ docTY~
Thanks for the reply, sig. pic is "alien birth pose"..hope it is not graphic enuff to get me banned here.. Did not even think about that at the time.. Now I suppose a firmware upgrade for my Sony DVD RW DRU-700A VVY03 would not hurt but this is my quandry.. I can burn up to 8X using this DVD ROM.. When I insert a Sony DVD +R I can burn 8X as data using Nero. When I insert a new 16X Verb into the Sony DVD Rom it could burn (it gives me the option) 8x in the program Clone DVD2 although I never burn above 4X.. (except for one time to try these verbs out.) But when I use Nero to burn a data disc , Using the 16X Verbs , nero limits me to only 2.4X ? You are saying that either my Sony or Nero is looking at these new 16X Verbs and limiting me to 2.4 unless I do a Firmware upgrade , when I have no problem burning a Sony / TY 8X data disc at 8X? The type of media you use, can rule how fast a burn you can make? I could see if I was trying to burn a data disc at 16X or even 8X and then crying about it when it wont,but to have this 16X media tell me that I can't burn over 2.4X as data with a DVD+R and 4X on a DVD-R kinda leaves a fowl taste in my mouth . And I bought 200 of these "great" blank discs.. GRRRRRR And then to top it off , the first disc I use to back up a movie at 4X , Clone DVD2 spits it out and tells me it is unable to do it because of bad media..(I put in another disc from same spindle and it burned just fine) If these are the problems right out of the cakebox, I can tell you I am not impressed with the Verbatim media at all. Craig
@ Craig, sometimes you will have a conflict w/ Sony drives w/ certain types of media, but, in your case, i REALLY think that the most recent firmware upgrade WILL do you some good...i have the next model up from you, the Sony dru-710a, when i first purchased the drive (upon it's release here in the U.S.), yes i paid a pretty penny and was disappointed w/ it's ability due to the lack of firmware to REALLY utilize the drive to it's full potential, SEVERAL revisions later, now i am very pleased with the drive... give this a try and see if there is any improvement using those 16x Verbs...are they dvd-r or dvd+r, just out of curiousity? download the LATEST from Sony here: http://sony.storagesupport.com/dvdrw/firmware.htm#700 it will be the VY08, you said you have the VY03, this is SEVERAL revisions behind and i believe this is what is limiting your data speed burns. my Sony happens to LOVE Verbatim media, and MOST Liteon drives do...they can AND will burn @ rated speed assuming you have the most recent firmware...give it a try and let me know, we can take it from there IF you are still having speed issues...also, MAKE SURE your "DMA" mode is set to ON, this could also be a cause for slow burn speeds if your system reverted back to PIO mode~ go here to check. http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/checking DMA.pdf good luck docTY~
That did the trick Kivory666.. I just burned 4.1 gig of pics from hard drive in 8 minutes at 8X.. It finished I put the disc back in to check it AnyDVD popped up to show there was at least something on the disc and then the PC crashed.. HARD ... Hehehe probably from lack of recsources, it just all of a sudden rebooted on its own.. This is only a 1.2 GIG cpu and 384 meg ram.. But it did work great I must admit..(will back off on the speed when burning all those pics though!! he he) I hope this solves any issues with DVD clone2 finding "bad media".. coulda just been a dvd rom issue.. this firmware is supposed to improve all that .So maybe it will work there as well.Before I upgraded firmware I looked around and on the cdfreaks forum it was suggested that liteon and sony had the same firmware since the Verb discs were having the same "bugs" with the same 8X and 16X verbs.. would not write above a certain speed. and they were also complainin about Sony not upgrading their firmware.. VVY03 .. Umm the thread was old.. as old as my firmware. ) now I have VVY08 and all seems fine!!! Sigh now I have nothin' to complain about... till next time. ;^} he he Thanks so much for the support, this forum is a life saver!!! Craig
glad to be of service Craig, firmware makes the WORLD of difference, next time a need arises, ask for me by name~ you are very welcome~ docTY~
Bottom Line: What is the top 3 currently available DVD+R's to burn. I have backed up many many many discs on HP, Memorex, and Imation media and wish I had seen this forum prior to all my hard work. Luckily they all work perfectly, but now my sister wants a copy of my collection and I want to start all over while giving her the "bad CMC" discs. I want to make a purchase soon and would appreciate your honest opinion on what DVD+R discs I should get. I AM TRUSTING YOU GUYS/GALS! lol
@Eric78DX - for my media opinion, see my sig for top media recommendations, and i don't need to refer you to the Imation/CMC section of the sig as it sounds like you've 'seen the light' re those media at some stage
Thanks Creaky, you're the best. After posting I found some other similar responses using the "Search" sorry for asking the same question thats been answered a million times, but I don't want to waste my time buring movies only to sit here and do it all over again. With that out of the way. I have another question that I couldn't seem to find the answer to. Say I have a back up on CMC media. If I were to transfer the files from the CMC media back to my harddrive and copy it onto the Taiyo Yudens, will the effect of crap be transferred as well or will I have a crisp long lasting file, as if I had taken it from an original? Last but not least is this a good deal or should I be leary of id codes of the Taiyo Yudens or are all of them the "Cream of the crop" so to speak? http://www.yesbuy.net/taiyo-yuden-dvd-r-8x1.html The link may not work but it's at yesbuy.net and its 100 or 200pk of TY 8x DVD+R discs
Eric78DX ,your better off sticking with supermediastore.com or meritline.com both top notch dealers of Taiyo Yudens and the prices are less expensive on either site than the site you listed.heres a link http://supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-silver-thermal-8x-dvd-plus-r-media.html to re-rip your dvds the best tool is probably dvd decrypter ,ISO read ISO write as long as there arent to many read errors dvd decrypter should be able to handle the task
I have been reading these messages with great interest because I’ve been experiencing problems with my new Plextor 716A (latest firmware) and Memorex DVD+R DL media. I bought two 15-packs from Office Max and so far, I’ve had six coasters out of 15 burns. I’ve used Nero, Roxio, and Apollo to do my burns. No matter if at 2.4x or 4x, my failure rate is still most unacceptable. Upon running DVD Identifier 4.20, I see that the Memorex media is Ritek. I certainly hope that by switching to Verbatim, Fuji/TY, etc., I can avoid further heartaches and frustration. Now for the “burning” question: I received a 25-pack of Dynex DVD+R 8x as a birthday gift. They have not been opened, but I see on the package, they were made in Taiwan. What brand are these actually? If they're garbage DVDs, I'll go back to BestBuy after Christmas and exchange them for the good stuff. Thanks for all the insight, folks!
You need to use DVD indentifier to find the media code. I typed Dynex DVD media in google. Some report CMC MAG, others RITEK R03. Both are made in Taiwan. http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=115295
Well, I was hoping not to have to open the package so I could return it to BestBuy if need-be. Your report of "...CMC MAG, others RITEK03..." tells me what I needed to know. TAM! Ron
Yeah, going by that thread from CD Freaks the discs are of poor quality. Remember, genuine TY discs are only made in Japan.
rcm999 the Dynex are junk DONT use them in your Plextor and thoses drives dont like Ritek very well either . use Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim only in Plextors drives
aabbccdd, BIGTOXY69, Induna: Thanks for your input. I keep hearing over and over about TY and Verbatim. I've made arrangements to exchange all of my unopened crap media for the good stuff. I feel like a big weight has been lifted. Thanks to all of you for parroting what I've heard from others. As soon as I leave the office, I'm heading straight to CompUSA. Cheers! UPDATE: I made the swap, came home, ID'd the one of Verbatim discs and they are Mitsubishi! Tried one out of the pack and zing . . . an 8.5gb burn in 18 minutes. If only I had done it sooner.
