Not all Memorex suck / Questions for you / etc

Okay, well I used to mainly backup movies. Now I mainly backup games for the Playstation 2. Games are usually much more picky about media than movies. I've never used Memorex to backup a game, because I've read all the warnings. When I first started burning games, I didn't want to spend much on blank dvds so I ended up getting Imation 8x DVD+R's. They always worked so I never bothered to look into them. [I didn't know about the ID codes then.] Well, I know now that they are CMC's, which supposedly are horrible, but I never ever have problems. Out of about 100 discs, only 2 or so ended up being coasters, one of which was my fault. So, what's the problem with these discs if they are working perfectly for me? Is it that they are going to become damaged over time or what? Now, for the Memorex issue. When I constantly burned movies, the first few batches I got were the Memorex "Cool Colors" 8x DVD+R's. All of these movies work perfectly. I popped in a disc a few minutes ago to check the ID code, and it is a RITE GO3, which I thought was supposedly decent media. I also saw this on a site: Memorex = CMC, RICOHJPN, PRODISC, INFODISC. They don't have the RITE GO3 listed, and other than the CMC it seems that Memorex sometimes uses 3 differentgood types of media. Therefore, I'm thinking that all Memorex got a bad name just because of the CMC discs. Someone just got me a 30pack of Memorex 8x DVD-R. I don't want to open them, because I plan on taking them back, getting a refund, and buying a different brand. I am doing this because I always use DVD+R's and I am thinking that these are probably CMC's. So, does anyone know which Memorex discs other than the "Cool Colors" use media other than CMC? Unfortuantely, Walmart is the only store within a reasonable distance that sells dvd media, so that's where I'll be going. I don't want to spend too much money. Yeah, I'm cheap. Haha. Which discs should I get from Walmart when I go get a refund? By the way, I have a Lite-On burner and I only burn at around 2.6x max, so 4x and 8x blanks are fine. Let me know. Thanks.

 

Sorry for typing so much the first time, and I think I was a little unclear. I will not be buying Memorex when I return this 30pk. I was asking the following questions:
1. Does anyone know which Memorex discs other than my "Cool Colors" are not CMC's?
2. What's wrong with my Imation DVD+R's (which are coded CMC's) if I'm having a near perfect success rate?
3. What is your opinion on what I should get from Walmart when I take these back? I will just continue getting the Imation DVD+R's if there aren't any good deals, but since they are CMC's I am going to look to get something else first.

Much clearer this time. Haha. Thanks.

 

JoshLogan,
Memorex discs are known for 90% coaster. They have very bad reputation becos most of them are from CMC. The cheaper ones will not last long either. Times after times this thing had been brought out so many times in this afterdawn thread. Why dont you lend your ears to your senior member here. I think our senior members (samgung/K666) will one day get sick of answering this question.
After so many comments of this crappy dvd media (memorex),if you think memorex is worth investing then go ahead and afterall the money is yours.

 

If Walmart is going to be your Source for Media I would suggest either Maxell or Sony... Look for MADE IN JAPAN on the label...

Check this site out for info and reviews on Media
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php

 

henryting,
You obviously did not read my posts.

Thanks, tmfloria. Hopefully those two brands aren't too pricey. I'm looking for DVD+R's by the way. I know which brands are the highest quality. I'm mainly looking for what will be the best quality for the price. Best value.

 

Nearly 95% of Memorex media is crap with low quality. With that being said; even if you have a successfully backed up now, but down the road like 6 - 12 months it will starts to freeze, won't load/play no more, then you'll know what's up. However, the choice is yours to make - it's your money, your call.

Honestly, I'll never ever spend a penny on Memorex as long as the famous Taiyo Yuden, Maxell and Verbatim exist.

 

I myself have no trouble burning cmag media and at a 95% success rate. But stand alones can really pick these out and not be able to play them. A buddy gave me a 30 pack spindle of memorex +8x,and they happen to be from wal-mart with the MID code of CMC MAG-E01-000. These are just plain dvd +8x r with the branding on the inner hub of Is it live or is it Memorex. I've been backing up his riskee` dvds so I keep the burn speed at 2.4x and a backup target of 4360 mbs.

I did 3 of them last week for him and tested out in my new Magnavox $37 walmart special player. 1 of the 3 discs would not be recognized.I then inserted it into my very picky cyberhome dvd recorder and it played with no problem. Usually I stick a backup in that recorder,turn power off,and then back on again to be able to play a backup. That problematic Cmag was recognized and played perfect in my recorder, Go figure!

Some burners have no trouble,but reading most of the nero burn error logs,cmags are usually the culprit and the first thing to trouble shoot for is media quality.It can screw us up in many ways.

The price he paid for that 30 pack was about $15.00! Way too much,especially for cmags. The week before, Staples had the Fuji 30 pack spindles for $9.94 and these were Yuden000-T02. Excellent quality media and $5 cheaper.

Wal-mart media. The sony 1x-8x and maxell are very good,especially the ones made in japan so look those labels over. Wal-mart does not have sales on their media,but will match other competitors if they have the same brand name and spindle sizes. I like Office depot and staples. If you know what to look for,you can get yudens for 33-40 cents apiece and riteks for 28-35 cents apiece.

JoshLogan, Try this:
On one of those cmag discs,try re-ripping it to make another copy. You can either use dvd shrink or use dvd decrypter in ISO read and ISO write. See for yourself if those cmags are re-rippable. You can also try them on the fly like I do if you have a separate dvd-rom drive. That's a pretty good test on your media. The low quality stuff will have more burn errors,probably not noticeable by a stand alone player,but when You try to re-rip them,it will be tougher and probably will give you a crc error.

Here's a free handy tool to get the MID code on your media:
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/anydvd.cfm

Darn, I got that MID code using the dvdidentifier in my spare pc and it won't spit out that blank Memosux media. WTF! I'll have to re-set it.

 

@ JoshLogan hi
if it's cost that you are trying to save then you will find that RITEKR03 +r 1x-8x is a little cheaper to buy than TY's or Verb's
never use anything else myself ( Ritek that is)

 

 As far as buying discs from WalMart .. Yes, Maxell and Sony are both really good, but it really doesn't matter if they're made in Japan or Taiwan, both are very good. Some WalMart stores also carry Verbatim discs, these are excellent and, in my opinion, the best media out there!

 

I think it make a huge difference! I buy [bold]ONLY[/bold] MIJ +R Sony's (Taiyo Yuden). I definately do not consider Prodisc on the same level as TY's (MIT -R's).

Always look for Made In Japan for the top quality on SONY's!!!

 

Well Creaky,

I've used Imation DVD-R and the work great, w/o errors.

I do believe the Ritek G03 DVD-R Imations were the ones giving everyone and issue. Also the DVD+R's have been known to vary in results.

The Imation "CMC MAG. AF1" DVD-R as well as a majority listed here:
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?dvdmediadvdridsearch=CMC MAG. AF1

Have yielded good results.

I know you've been at this longer than me, but I have to disagree with the statement that Imations are not good. (I do agree that they may not be as good as Verbatims)

 

Thanks to all those who are helping.
Glad to see that I'm not the only one who seems to be having no problems with Imation. Alright... so, Walmart doesn't have sales on their media, but they will match competitors? Does this mean that if I print out some prices/ads for Office Depot, Staples, etc. and bring them with me they will match the price if it's the same exact spindle pack? this can be useful. see, I could drive far away and go to one of those other stores, but then I'd just be spending a lot of extra gas money, which will means in the end I basically will not have saved any money. maybe I'll get lucky and walmart will have some Sony or Fuji discs at decent prices. What are the general opinions on Fugi discs? I've read that some are great and some are pretty bad...

 

 To akylbnen ... I said NOTHING about ProDisc, what I said was it doesn't matter if the Maxell or Sony discs are MIT or MIJ

Sony DPR47/120 DVD+R 2.4x (RICOHJPNR00)
Sony DPW47/120 DVD+RW 2.4x (RICOHJPNW01)
Sony DVD+R 2.4x (RICOHJPNR00)
Sony DVD+R 4x (RICOHJPNR01)
Sony DVD+R 8x (SONY-D11-00
Sony DVD+R 8x (YUDEN000T0200)
Sony DVD+RW (RICOHJPN W01)
Sony DVD-R 2x (SONY)
Sony DVD-R 4x (MCC 01RG20)
Sony DVD-R 4x (SONY04D1) Maxell DVD+R 4x (RICOHJPNR01)
Sony DVD-R 8x (SONY08D1)
Maxell DVD+R 4x (YUDEN000T01)
Maxell DVD+R 8x High Grade Video (MAXELL002)
Maxell DVD-R 1x (RITEKG03....)
Maxell DVD-R 2x (MXL RG01....)
Maxell DVD-R 4x (MXL RG02....)
Maxell DVD-R 4x (TYG01.......)
Maxell DVD-RAM 3x (MXL8)
Maxell DVD-RW 2x (MCC 01RW11n9)
Maxell DVD-RW 2x (TDK502sakuM3)

I don't see ProDisc anywhere on these lists!

 

I'm not sure of wal-mart price matching from web site ads or out of town ads. It would be nice though.I forgot about the Verbatim digital movie quality discs that wal-mart has. Pretty pricey at about a buck apiece with a nice case,but still can get these well under 40 cents apiece at best buy.

Those sony codes look pretty decent, but on some of their dash 1x-4x MID code Sony04D1: I have burned some of these from both taiwan and Austria with that exact code. I try to stay away from anything not made in japan/taiwan/and singapore. It was only a 5 pack of austrian dvd's that were given to me.Burned ok,very slow though and nothing important on them. I just don't trust Austrian media.Sony also uses the same MID code of SONY08D1 on their japanese and taiwanese dash 1x-8x media.

Josh, Best buy/circuit city/compusa/and office max usually has some good sales if you have 1 of them close to you.

 

 Yeah, WalMart only matches in town prices .. I have one right down the street from an Office Depot so if the Sony, Maxell or Verbs are on sale at OD and they're out or don't have the origin that I want .. I go to WMart

 JoshLogan, my LiteOn recorders love the Verbatim discs the most ...