NOVEMBER 2008 BAN WAVE !!! - no posts of "Oh POOR ME I'M BANNED", Stop it already, just the facts

The last time I entered Xbox Live was at least 3 months ago. I don´t know if I´m banned. I was waiting for Left 4 Dead to go Live again, but now I´m waiting to the banwave to stop.

Anyway, I played the flagged version of Fable, the one listed above. I only played for 15 mins to test the copy, haven't connected to live neither while nor after playing this game.

What should I do now? Is there something I can do so the Fable info don´t get to M$ when I connect? I know no one has final answers, but suppositions are good.

And let´s say I don´t get banned. Should I get another version of fable and trash this one I have? Where does that list came from anyway?

Thanks

 

Arse!! yeah hands up they got me too! I aint fussed tho,cos its my sons and I never play it!! Using IExtreme 1.4 on Hitachi drive for info.....

 

did anyone else get kick off live last night around 10 pm west coast time for about 10 minutes and then able to get back on? wierd

 

Yeah me and my brother, and I believe all my friends did too (they weren't on when I signed back on)....when I came back to my xbox I was terrified. But I can't believe they are still doing the banning....on a Saturday. Way to ruin people's weekends M$.

Doesn't seem like this will ever end.

 

Yes, I too was booted from live last night. Thinking I was banned, I tried to log in expecting an error and logged in fine. Weird.

 

All but one of the games you listed are marked as nuked by abgx.net, all but the GOW2 release you mentioned.

I see the article says some games were stolen, so you could assume that this GOW2 release was the one released to the net. But even if it was, it was a legit retail copy (hence why it's not nuked), so you can only guess that playing it early is what got some banned...though it sounds reasonable. I would guess that if you had a save file or achievement on your box before the game even left the companies, they would know where you got it.

So to start to figure out this mystery, did anyone here get banned who DID NOT play a nuked game or who did not play GOW2 early?

 

Thats the day the new Xbox 360 dashboard update is done

 

just got banned ive got gears and cod not played em online but got banned but lad across road has got his flashed and hasent played a copy for at least 6 month and he got banned at same time so dont think its gears or cod <he hasent even got em>

 

so your saying they banned your console due to it being modded but not by playing a susspect game ......


shit to this im getting my atari back out of the loft !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I'm running a newly flashed 360 that's only been modded for a couple of days, but it's good on Live as of 1 minute ago. It's only played a burned copy of COD5 that checked out 100% in abgx360. I think if game doesn't check out 100% in abgx360 it may flag you. There are a bunch of them put there that do not.

 

dont know for sure but i guess it must be firmware both of us been and bought a new 360 today and both are back on line (i think ms is trying to get his xmas sales up looks like bill gates could do with the money lol)

 

The more I read the more I have to agree with posters who are saying that it's bad games and not firmware detection.
It makes absolutely no sense to me why M$ wouldn't ban every single 360 that was on Live IF they could detect firmware. If they wanted to prove they were serious about cracking down on piracy, at least when it comes to playing on Live, then why wouldn't they send a clear message that "We know who you are and we are clamping down on you." and ban everyone at the same time.
Think about it.
We are all on here trying to figure out what games are bad and some of us are still on Live. So you may detour a few people from flashing their consoles but if they really wanted or could send out the message that if you mod you will be banned then wouldn't they do it already?
The only argument I can think of is that it's a "beta test" before they do heavy banning with NXE but I really don't think that's the case.
What does everyone else think?

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It happened exactly at midnight eastern standard time. I suspect this was microsoft updating the servers. This happened twice once at 12 midnight on the dot and once at 12:10am on the dot. The live service was still up but the MTU wasn't able to connect. After signing back in my 20 friends that were online were knocked down to 3.

It was odd because it froze my gta game in black screen, so i pressed the power off, the ring of light turned off but the console was still running. I pressed the eject button and it turned the console back on. I'm glad it wasn't trying to update, or it would have bricked.

 

I got banned after either playing Mirror's Edge on november the 13th or Fallout 3 on november the 14th. I think it was on the 14th since I 'm pretty sure I made sure that my 360 didn't go online on the 13th since Mirror's release date was the 14th. I was already playing Fallout 3 a few weeks though. And my 360 was still fine with GoW 2 and COD 5.

 

What I think is going on is Microsoft has been able to detect bad disks for quite some time. It's possible that MS has known which systems are modded for months now but only now have decided to act upon it, hence the reason some people that haven't even touched the "suspicious" list of games have still been banned.

Think about it, if you were a huge company headed into the holiday season, especially one where MS is practically trying to relaunch the system, wouldn't it make sense to launch a massive attack against modders during that period. Sony and Microsoft battle each year in the holiday, to be the company that sells the most systems during that time. Consumers later see that a particular system outsold another during the holiday and that creates a great start into the next year with sales as well. I believe Microsoft is using every bit of it's ability this holiday to drive sales more than the PS3 for that exact reason. I'm sure a large percentage of people who are recently banned will run out and purchase a system within the next month or so, or get a new one for Christmas. It's business tactics that I wouldn't put past a company like Microsoft for a second. I know if I was on the MS board I would do the same.

 

I got banned on either the 13th while playing Mirror's Edge or on the 14th with Fallout 3. I think it has to be the 14th since I am pretty sure I didn't let my 360 go online on the 13th since Mirror's Edge's release date was on the 14th. I had already been playing Fallout 3 a few weeks and it was going fine during thhat time. Also, I could go online with COD 5 and GoW 2.

 

i dunno if this info helps or not

i dont think microsoft are using anything to check the firmware
ive had the samsung iextreme 1.4 firmware for a while now and havent played any backup games yet, im not banned

 

i got banned, only game i've played that wasn't good was saints row 2 review copy. two of my friends played it and also got banned.as they say live and learn.