Nvideas rsx pipelines vs 360 ATI pipelines 360 core vs ps3 cell

Truthman please, you cannot say how much fps its running. Nor estimate. Just say it runs better and faster....

I dont htink there is an option screen with the graphic details and everything, showing you how much fps the game is.
Yes of cource the game would run faster.

 

Truthman please, you cannot say how much fps its running. Nor estimate. Just say it runs better and faster....

I dont htink there is an option screen with the graphic details and everything, showing you how much fps the game is.
Yes of cource the game would run faster.

 

kookoo thats a triple post there.. also, madden 06 is not backward compatable. all the remade games for the 360, the previous ones dont work. isnt that funny? i bet its prewritten code to make u buy the new one.

 

TruthMan

there are some good games that ARE NOT support by 360 such as FARCRY. that is a great game even got a 9 on gamespot but its not supported by 360. why because Gates is retarded/gay

 

Well i kn ow that you are not blind now.
The server was being stupid, and it posted 3 times. They had technicall difficulties. Please dont point out the obvios.

 

lol

 

no, you probably clicked send, then it didnt load so you clicked send again. then probably a third time, or you refreshed and sent again.

 

No anibus, afterdawn had technical difficulties yesterday.

 

o, well i haven't got far cry but i have played it.
besides, its better for the PC, i have played the PC version also.
my opinion thou.

far cry is the first decent game that is not listed then, but im sure it will be, it wouldnt be a good move if they missed games like that out.

and kookoo, my FPS thing.
i have benchmarked that many times and ran so many framerate tests, that i can roughly estimate how many FPS a game is running at.
due to overclocking etc, and to see if it has made any difference, as accurately as possible, i tweak all the time.

no way would i just guess if i didnt know, if* i didnt know i would just say, (like you said) that they play better and faster.

but like with all games, even on the very best of the best, games can have slowdown moments, just small quick *farts* where it jerks, or the framerate goes bad for half a second etc.
but there usually very rare in the 360 playing old xbox games case.
and the improved resolution is also nice.

 

new info on the ps3 fr you guys.

ps3 not hard to develope, uses opengl.
http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=11718
http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/682/682968p1.html
opengl is very easy to program nicely for, if anyone here has worked with it.

wal-mart knowing before us?
http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=1955
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/catalog.gsp?cat=413799
but sony has redone some, so it seems they are working off of little new news.

sony constanly assering a spring release. should we believe?
http://www.gameshout.com/news/012006/article2976.htm
i think there will be a slow start in sales but they will blast toward the lead within months, especially upon a us release.

namko to make 4 titles, most if not all for release?
http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=1956
nako has always had decnt games, im glad to hear this.


theres your news for the night.

 

www.ps3updates.com all that was already mention on that site. if your interested in PS3 check it out often. they have a PSP, iPod, PS2, XBOX 360, Nintendo Revolution, GP2X sites as well.

 

just posting them from sites people would see as not so bias and try to use that against me. plus some people dont look for this stuff.

 

I can't wait till feb 16 and march 1'st. This thread can finally get going again.

 

this thread will hit sky high when e3 comes to town.

 

If only you knew what you were talking about. I didn't know a g70 graphics processor was better than a videocard that goes beyond many shader model 3.0 requirements and even has some advanced features not even listed in windows graphics foundation 2.0 (WGF2.0) for the unreleased windows vista.

http://www.beyond3d.com/articles/xenos/index.php?p=10

http://www.beyond3d.com/articles/xenos/index.php?p=09




Unified shader... 48 pipelines.... 512MB (ps3 has 256MB) of video memory, 10mb edram 4xaa antialiasing at no performance drop is what the 360 gpu is packing... Oh a 7800gtx (g70) is better than ati's unreleased r600???? What exactly are you thinking? The 360 will massacre the ps3 when it comes to graphics..

Before you go thinking the extra 512MB of video memory makes no difference just check out these benchmarks pay attention to game benches such as fear, cod 2, doom 3. The videocard you need to pay attention to is the GeForce 7800 GTX 256 MB (ps3 gpu)

http://www.gamepc.com/labs/print_content.asp?id=h2k5512&cookie_test=1

Notice the 512MB versions always outperform the 256 versions?, but wait the max resolution they used was 1600x1200 isn't this ps3 gpu suppose to get the job done at 1080p? (1920x1080) which will put more stress on the graphics card.

For the record incase anyone was wondering the 360 graphics card is more advanced and can outperform every videocard shown there.



In true games next gen games the extra 256 ALWAYS makes a difference the ps3 is already losing in the graphics technology department and the only area in which they could've helped themselves a bit they didn't still stuck with 256MB of video memory that will limit the ps3's abilities to handle the more stressful games and not wanting to show such weaknesses developers will in fact leave out certain features or graphical bells and whistles to keep it running nicely.


Maybe a non unified shader 7800gtx in the ps3 can beat nvidia's unreleased g80 product which will be the FIRST time nvidia (ones that made ps3 video card) will be using the newer technology for their videocards (technology i'm referring to is unified shaders)
I'd like to see your detailed explanation of how exactly an older videocard the 7800gtx is going to outperform nvidia's unreleased product line.. by now if you actually read any of this you'll know its impossible which is exactly why the 360 gpu which has technology that wont be seen on the pc till ati's r600 product line.. The 360 gpu is even better than the unreleased r580 from ati. You are aware there are already pc videocards that surpass the 7800gtx the ps3 will be using? Whereas there is nothing currently for the pc that can by itself beat the 360 gpu not for a good while to come. A simple reason is for one not a single videocard avaiable to the pc right now has a unified shader architecture or has 48 pipelines. Nothing has that 10mb of edram either. 10MB of edram no big deal what the hell makes that such a big deal for the 360? Find out this next link is by far the easiest to understand breakdown of why the 360 graphics card is far more impressive than most people truly know. In a year or 2 the 360's true graphics capabilities will start to show.

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=Nzcx

 

ATi's unreleased R580? What are you, back in time? It was released months ago, is called the x1900 series, and is as fast as both the PS3 and Xbox 360 graphics processors, it is quite similar to the latter...

Both systems have 512mb memory overall. nVidia splits this in two, with 256mb for graphics and 256mb for main system memory. Xbox 360 has 512mb of shared memory... So both the system (CPU etc...) and the GPU will use it, so your supposed advantage there disappears.

There are no plain advantages of the Unified shader technology yet, it is really a design to make things simpler for graphics designers... Also you should know that the Xenos in Xbox 360 is ATi's R500 GPU, renamed, repackaged and used well... since both Xenos and x1900 can use a max of 48 pixel shaders at once, but x1900 can also do 8 vertex runs at the same time, whilst Xenos can do none, we can see that the x1900 has superior peak performance...
The edram is very nice, you're right, but it can't save it.

Just so you know, G80 probably wont have a unified architechture... just sm4 support. (Xenos GPU has SM3..).

Lastly, to get an idea of PS3s power please read this: http://games.kikizo.com/news/200602/065_p1.asp

And if you look at my older posts on this thread you will realise I am not a fanboy. I have a an xbox 360, and I love it.

 

Well said.

 

That article is really old. It seems like I read it ages ago.

 

Couple of months, but it still holds true and is a good reflection of what some developers have found with the PS3. It is a little wibbly in places, but gets the basic idea right, and is a good read for those who don't have access to people actually using the dev machines (unlike myself) - it does underplay the difficulty of Cell somewhat, but only so that they don't get a ticking off from Sony... The conclusion is fair and the document is far from one-sided.

 

this article is a good example of the increasing tech changes. just look when we started, i was referring to cards like X1800XT etc. nar weve got X1900XTX and some sweet stuff.... lol