Official docTY Taiyo Yuden thread

The only pioneer drives capable of bitsetting/booktyping are the 109 and 110 and they are only capable of doing so with the buffalo f/w. All pioneer drives prior to these are not capable period.

 

tom1991 you can always get Taiyo Yuden online thats where i get all mine at either supermediastore.com or meritline.com SMS has TYGO1s 300 pack for 81 bucks

 

Did anyone ever hear about/used the following media? Is this a CMC Mag cousin?

 

pretty damn positive it is..

 

hi
i have a couple of Mr.DVD +RWs and they ID as CMC mag (i know... i know. no need to hit me with a big hammer) so my guess would be, yes they are

 

Thanx all for input!
Yeah, I already told him/her to "drop'em like they'r hot"! Went ahead and tried some Verbatims and guess what, came back with a succesful burn(miracle?!).
Just because I never heard of them, not even amongst "decent media" was an indicator, but just wanted assurance, as I've never used any.
Mr. DVD!! What kind of name is that anyway?

 

wow, lot has gone on since i've been gone....hehehe... "Mr.DVD" huh? man, if THAT isn't a friggin generic name for a brand of dvd, i dunno what is? LOL

i don't think i could stop laughing if that company ever introduced a "Mrs. DVD"...that would be the silliest thing in media that i've EVER saw~!

as to everyone else...i'll try not to forget anyone...

@storm

good choice on your new Benq drive, while i personally only use the non-lightscribe capable drives, the 1655 is a genuine benq drive, NOT rebadged by Teac (manufacturer) as the Benq DQ60 is...i would NOT recommend that drive, despite the very cheap price and the dvd-ram capabilities...

as to the drive smelling "burnt", i've read some reports of that occurring before, it was with Benq drives too as a matter of fact, i have 3 Benq drives at this point (they are all dw-1640s) and i'm waiting for the newest dw-1650 soon to be released soon now here in the U.S., but, i don't have a definitive answer for ya unfortunately as to WHY that smells permeates from your drive, despite you saying that it burns/reads/works just fine~ none of my drives has ever smelled "burnt," unless i fried them myself~ LOL (incorrect/bad cross-flashing experiment gone awry) hehe...

if you are going to RMA it anyways, it won't hurt to update to newest firmware for your drive, whether it will improve your TY burn scores or not, i dunno since i don't have that particular model Benq...but on Benq drives especially, MY best nero scan scores are burning TYs @8x, never slower, never faster than the rated speed...overburning (burning faster than rated speed of disc will NOT give you better results, they might be "acceptable", but will NOT be good.) the higher quality drives have this capability, to "overburn" media..i strongly recommend AGAINST doing this, burning a 8x rated TY/Verbatim @ 12x or 16x is asking for it in the long run~

@dagodan

my buddy mort81 hit it right on the nail,

that is completely accurate and i couldn't have said it better myself...

@tokijin

yes i do, but mort81 beat me to it as i've been away for a few days on business...keep up the good work buddy~

cheers all, i'll be back in a bit...

docTY~

 

hi:~)
what are the recommendations for burning speed?
i get poor scan scores using x2,x4 speed on my x8&x16 media

The x8 media is anything TY DYE -R&+R or VERBATIM MCC -R&+R
The x16 media is VERBATIM MCC -R&+R

great thread

 

Everybody's burner is different as far as media compatibility, firmware upgrades, and burning software. Generally it's a good idea to burn at half the speed of the disc. I never go over 4x on an 8x disc (though I may try sometime soon), but a lot of my burns are PS2 games. I burn at 4x on an 8x DVD-R's with movie backups as well. That may not hold for you, but it's a good place to start. I'm giving you the abridged version, Doc will tackle more of the ins and outs. While I'm here, Doc my burner (Sony DRU-810A) can burn Sony Media at twice the rated speed (16x on an 8x DVD-R). I've got enough sense to know that doing so will send my quality scores south for the winter, but how bad would they be? This is sort of one of those annoying hypotheticals, so in short, would I notice a drastic drop off in quality? Thanks for the info. Cheers!

 

@Tokijin
lol,probably 70% of all my burns are PS2 related
one of the burners i'm using is same burner you have(benq DW1640)
try to burn x8 on your x8&x16 media and SEE the resault
i DO NOT think slower is better anymore

 

hey, just in case anyone is interested, i had made a post a while ago about my TY -r 8x printables coming flawed.. well i emailed supermedia and they gave me a RMA number and i shipped about 23 discs back, just got 25 back today, all with a diferent batch number so i know theyre not the same ones, and they look exactly the same.. some worse some better but i just wantedt to comment on the fact that supermedia took my partial return and sent me replacents asap, so if theres anyone who hasnt done business with them, they have great service and if you ever have problems theres no hassle in returns.. as for my dvds i guess ill just have to live with them..now that ive thought about it, i think its just a fact of it being so tightly packaged in the tapewrap that something transfers from the top of the printables to the bottom of the disc above it, after noticing thta alot of them are slightly stuck together..thats my thought anyway...( so actually the TY's themselves were not flawed but more so in the packaging)

aside from that, ive only gone through about 175 ty 8x but so far, 0 coasters. glad i switched

 

@ThyDemise

by any chance the inner hub no. was GG000098 ?

 

the ones i sent in were gg000123 and the ones i got back were gg000118

 

Those are definitely legit TY's's. They have the GGxxxxx code. Both the unbranded TY's and the MIJ Sony TY's have the GGxxxxx ID on the inner hub.

@ TaiyoUser You've had good success with 16x media on the PS2? I've read that even if burned at 4x, it still causes the PS2 laser some issues. Because of that I always recommend 4x or 8x media for the PS2. I have a Matrix Infinity modchip, so I use TYG02: http://supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-silver-thermal-8x-dvd-r-media.html for DVD-5 games and Verbatim DVD+R DL media (booktyped to DVD-ROM) for DVD-9 games.

Damn you supermediastore.com, taunting me with free shipping on the 200 pack of the silver thermals. I've got 110 TYG02's left. It's tempting, but I'll have to wait. I've burned 140+ PS2 games to TYG02 with 0 coasters.

 

@Tokijin
yes,i do get good resaults with x16 media(VERBs MCC)
but,you'll have to burn them at x8 speed
what burning program you use?

another thing...the problem i got with the GG000098 was that for all of that media i got bad scans
evrey single media from that pack gave me PIF MAX=5 PIF TOTAL=10 from the begining of the scan(the first few sectors)

 

I think that's normal to get most of your PIF's at the beginning of the scan. I've read that before, and it seems to be the case with my burner. Again, Doc will elaborate. I use DVD Decrypter and Alcohol 120% to burn my PS2 games. I use Nero to backup movies. I've got great results with the 8x TY DVD-R's, so it'd be pretty difficult to get me to switch. I used Ritek initially, but I had to rebuild a couple games (which shouldn't happen since I have a chip). I switched to Taiyo Yuden and haven't had to rebuild any games since. I've played Dragon Quest 130+ hours and it's still going strong on TYG02. I don't care how often your kiddies watch Barney, that's more time in the DVD player than most movies will ever see. I use the MIT Sony's for movies, I think they're superior to RitekG05. Plus they have the white surface which is great for writing on. Only TY's and Verb's for PS2 games. What do you use to burn your PS2 games?

 

@Tokijin
i(also) use only TY's and VERB's(MCC) and DDecrypter&Alcohol as burning programs(this is what all PS2 owners should do..hehe)
about the GG000098 media,with other media i DO NOT get those resaults,the problem was only at the begining of the media (the first few MB's on the DVD,the 'rest' of the DVD was burnT as normaly sould)
for me this was bad media,i was doing great with my GG000103
(BTW,PIF MAX=5 is not a good resault anyway,i like scores in the range of 97-99 for the PS2)
we PS2 owners should be exta carefull about media and scan resaults!

try burning your media in x8 speed,emember,it DO NOT start the burn at x8 speed,it starts at x4 then x6 only at around 3GB it swiches to x8 speed(with my NEC's)
now scan your media,see what kind of resaults you get...

 

Sorry no dice in burning at 8x for PS2 games. I might try it on movies first, then move up to PS2 games if all is well. I don't care about movie quality as much. I still care, just not as much of a perfectionist. Most people I know have had a mixed bag when going above 4x on PS2 games. I've talked to quite a number of people on the subject. I'm content at 4x with PS2 games for now. Glad it works for you though. You get the occasional random noob in the PS2 which is like burn at 16x who cares, I know what I'm doing. Screw all these people who know more than me. Burn at 16x on CMC Mag and you'll be fine. You can never get too many of those. Cheers!

 

@taiyouser

well, i noticed you have the benq 1640 as do i...for THAT particular burner, burn both your 8x and 16x rated media @ 8x~

as to your NECs...i have the OLD model, the 3520a, i still burn my TYs or MCCs @8x too, but i don't use my NEC frequently, it's on my backup computer that my wife uses...

i burn regularly with my Benq 1640 and my Sony dru-710a, i've since moved my Pioneer dvr-109 to my "unfinished AMD dual core setup" that i'm in the process of building right now...

but, for GOOD quality media, ESPECIALLY on Benq drives, DEFINITELY do NOT go under 4x for burn speed, you will get crappy results...i don't burn @16x on my Benq either, i keep it at a stable 8x for MY best results on practically ALL my burners i have...

as to burning PS2 games, i don't own a PS2 so i have never burned a PS2 game in my life, that's where tokijin comes in...i got nothing to say about that topic as i have zero experience in that game...no pun intended

if using a Benq, your quote is DEFINITELY accurate~ on quality media of course

as to the irregular scans you received from that "bad batch", i'm guessing that those issues WERE related to a "bad batch" of TYs...it was mentioned earlier in this thread about compiling a list of "good" vs "bad" batch numbers, but i never got around doing it nor do i have the time to start one..but, feel free to contribute and add YOUR own personal experiences with "faulty batches" and "good batches" too~

@tokijin

as mentioned earlier, that Sony is a rebadged Benq 1640 that i currently use, it WILL overburn media (meaning faster than the rated speed of the discs); however, i would def. suggest AGAINST IT...while i've done quite a few when i was testing out my Benq drive when i first bought it, the scans are "acceptable" depending on who you ask (burning both the TYG02 & the YUDEN000T02 @16x) but i use that term "acceptable" VERY loosely, scanning them produced mid to high 80s in nero cd/dvd-speed testing, while that is UNACCEPTABLE to ME, it WILL play on dvd players with only MINOR pixellation issues...it never froze or skipped, just noticeable pixellation on the 8x rated TYs that i burned @ 16x~
whether that is "drastic" drop in quality to you or not, that's based on what YOU consider "acceptable" or not~

docTy~