Official docTY Taiyo Yuden thread

thanks for clearing that up for me doc . it's great to have somebody like yourself helping out us noob's .. your help if greatly appreciated

 

hay DOC
fame at last for the TY GUY

 

@aland

i've known about the Plextor brand name selling the YUDEN000T03s for quite a few months now, seemingly, creaky over in the UK, CAN get his hands on some media that we over here in the U.S. are limited to...
(ie. Verbatim TYs as well as the Plextor 16x dvd+r TYs)

that is the problem with various manufacturers of media, Taiyo Yuden included...worldwide, there will be some people that CAN obtain certain media well before their peers in other countries, this is very much the case here with Taiyo Yuden and their U.S. distribution too~

rima.com happens to be a pretty large reseller of Taiyo Yuden, they even have gone as far as NOT carrying Taiyo Yuden's "valueline" of dvd-r because of what SOME people say about them...this is to only protect their reputation as the debate on the "valueline" vs. "premiumline" of Taiyo Yuden has been raging on since the middle of last year~

i was never stating the YUDEN000T03s are "better" than any other 16x dvd+r medias in general. i was simply letting the people in the U.S. know that i got my hands on a few pieces to "test out"

supposedly, these Plextor branded YUDEN000T03s have an "extra" protective layer on them, to prevent scratches and such, but since i do not have any Plextor branded media, i can't give you a definitive answer as to whether that is true or not. since you have a 50-pack, perhaps you could tell ME if they do or not?

while i DO know, as with any company that uses Taiyo Yuden as their manufacturer (Fuji/Sony) here in the states, you will see the TOP surface being different than the OEM Taiyo Yudens (silver shinys/silver lacquer). the top "writeable area" is what stands out as being different (companys have their own logos with a few lines you could use a sharpie to write on). also, i know for a fact that the Plextor branded YUDEN000T03s are also GOLD in color (top writeable surface) and they (plextor) DO NOT offer a inkjet printable disc at this time...

it's good that some members are adding some info to this thread, naturally, our "outside of the U.S." members will have access to media that WE in the U.S. will not be available to get to try (unless you have a friend in Europe that sends you media, as in your case aland~ hehe)

@alkohol

don't know when the YUDEN000T03s will be available locally at say bestbuy or staples, i have yet to find a company in the U.S. that Taiyo Yuden has agreed to manufacture the 16x dvd+r for...

@everyone else

keep the good info coming, i'm off to clear up a debate on "valueline" vs "premiumline" TYs now...

whew, now THAT was a bit of typing...

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/1/297550#1707071

docTY~

 

Hey docTY~! Bunnyrip says: Way to go Man! You are definitely right on about Taiyo Yuden Made Media! I have yet to see a coaster & the playback results are even noticably better! They are Truly The "Cadillac" of DVD Media! Best of all, you can buy them for the same price or less than Crap Memosux, Imation, etc. JUNK. Why anyone would buy that stuff is beyond me. Anyway, way to go docTY~!
THE "warehouse" for TY media. LOL

 

@bunnyrip

thanks for the confidence boost buddy, most media related problems disappear once you use the "good stuff" :0

docTY~

 

docTY,

I asked this question on a separate thread and didn't get proper response and since its related to TY I thought I might get a answer here. After we backup a movie using TY and if we look at the Recorded Surface how should the color be. It should be solid with one single color from the inner ring to the outer or we can see the ring like structures on the recorded surface where we can clearly see the rings on the recorded surface.

Thanks.

 

@dvdsoul

while i have encountered these "rings" you speak of on very FEW Taiyo Yudens, i have seen them...i guess if you really look that closely on the recorded surface and see rings, that COULD be due to your burner "creating" these rings during the burn...

it COULD be a slew of factors WHY the rings appear...the backups you have made on TY with these so called "rings", does it affect the playback? are they "coasters"? do you get pixellation/freezing/skipping or other burn related problems approximately at the time the rings begin on the disc?

these "rings" could also be a result of your burner either losing or gaining momentum in the course of the burn...it has nothing to do with how "hot the laser" is, but the rotational speed of the disc during the burn is NOT always consistent...if you are burning ReALLY fast, say at 16x, your burner doesn't ACTUALLY burn @16x the ENTIRE WAY from beginning to end...it usually obtains TRUE 16x speed burn towards the end/edge of the disc...starts slower naturally, then spools up and gets faster...

MOST of my TY burns are a solid "purpleish" color from hub to edge of disc, while i've noticed a FEW with the "rings", they did NOT affect the final product, there was no issues during playback...but, that is only ME...

i'm sure other members will have different opinions as to WHY the rings are there or if they are "normal" or not to a certain degree...you have MY OPINION on the matter, don't know what else i can really say about these "rings"

docTY~

p.s. do you see these "rings" ONLY on Taiyo Yuden media? or is it apparent with other media you have tried too? on the same burner i'm assuming...

if you see the rings on other brands of media and this is having an adverse affect on your backups, then it MIGHT be time to look for a new burner or have your burner's lens cleaned or maintainenced...

 

Thanks docTY~ for your response.

Well the discs play absolutely fine and no skipping or freezing or CRC errors. I couldn't do a Disc Quality check though as my burner doesn't work with that.

Its a 8X DVD-R TY disc. I burn only at 4X. Actually after starting the burn process one thing that I notice is after some 10-15% done the disc will spin and I could hear the Disc Spin sound and after a while it will go quiet again. I don't do multitasking as well during the process.

I don't have any problem with the disc but was wondering if it might bring down the life of the disc or something where some 6 months afterwards it might let me down.

Thanks for your time again.

 

Hello, first I want to say thanks to the people here. I got my first dvd burner about 4 months ago. I've learned many thing from the knowledgebase here. I still pull my hair out sometimes, mostly concerning resizing video while keeping the aspect ratio and not loosing any of the video, but I'm pulling far less now. It's a good thing to, I'm too young to loose all my hair. So far I've purchased 3 brands of Media. First, TDK....TTHO2, before I found this site. Then Verbatim....MCC 02RG20. I waited till I ran out to get my thrid batch. BIG MISTAKE!!. I only have a Staples and Walmart within a 1 hour drive and I needed them ASAP so I thought Staples would be my best bet. The only thing they had, that wasn't made in Tawian or India was Sony, which are TO2. They are +R, I had been getting -R due to what I've read about compatiblity. They were $19.99 for 25. "@@@@", Yeah, that's what I said, to keep from driving all over town I got them. I've had great sucess with all three brands. Not a coaster yet. The Verbs were shiny top...finger print magnents, which I didn't like, but no biggie. To keep from having to run out ASAP and pay an overinflated price again I've decided to go strickly with TY -R Media. My question is, where are some of the best places to get authentic TY Media and how can I make sure when I purchase online that I'm getting authentifc TY media. Thanks to all.

 

Since AD was where I first heard the Yuden name I have to give proper respect to a thread that deserves it. I haven't had problems since switching over from the dark side (Memosux). When I first started burning I din't know what I was doing wrong, come to find out I was hitting all the right buttons but still had problems due to media and speeds. Now I burn TYGO TG's at max speed and still get around 94, 96 on Nero Tools.
No, this was not a paid commercial (advert) but looking back, it really cheesily sounds like it.

 

@docTY~,
Absolute Fact: "Most" burning problems go away when using Quality Media! TYs, Verbs and some RITEK work very well. Me? I stick with #1 Taiyo Yuden, #2, Verbatim MCC004 16x DVD+R. 99.9% of my burns are with these, and I don't get "Coasters" either. Keep up the good work Ole Buddy docTY~! bunnyrip.

 

@jake02

www.supermediastore.com

www.rima.com

www.meritline.com

and as of late, yes, even www.shop4tech.com offers authentic Taiyo Yudens~

when supermediastore runs their sales (quite frequently actually), they have better pricing than MOST online retailers for genuine TYs...but, when you factor in shipping costs, rima.com often comes out on top with LOWER overall shipped price for genuine TYs...

just gotta do a lil price shopping between stores... hope that's a good start


to everyone else, bring all your Taiyo Yuden questions/comments here...they are indeed great quality media, and as my buddy alkohol always says, "TAIYO YUDEN ROCK!"

docTY~

edit. p.s. DITCH the TDK jake, i DO NOT consider TDk made media (ie. TTG01/TTG02/TTH01/TTH02/TDK002/TDK003/etc. even CLOSE to the same quality as Taiyo Yuden media...not even in the same BALL-PARK as far as i am concerned~ TDK will NEVER be welcome in any of my burners...

 

Thaks for the info. I'm gettting ready to order. I'll check those vendors out. As for the TDK. That is what everybody is saying. I bought them the same time I did my drive and I hadn't researched anything at that time except the player to get, wasn't thinking as in good media-bad media ext. I just thought hey, it's a dvd-r. That is until I found you guys. Well I'll be sticking with TY from now on and hope not to run out again. Thanks for the list.

 

anytime Jake, feel free to drop on by if you have any more issues/questions with TY, or would just like to add a comment or user experience with them...

good luck and happy burning~

docTY~

 

Hey Doc, are you now "Lord of the Rings" also?? Great to see you have your own thread now.
A month or so ago i was helping a person in the Nero forum. They were having problems burning, and the media code from Nero was coming back TYG02. So i thought good media, but warned them about fakes being out there. Several burn logs later the person revealed the "TYs" were bought on the cheap, and had a MIT on the package. Hub codes were not the correct TY numbers. Person switched to some Verbatims, and problem went away. Those fake media codes can throw us off since we are trying to fix things from afar with only a log to go by.
Anyone wondering if their Tys are real or fake, can just ask Doc Ty here, and he will be able to figure it out for you (or you can read his post and find the numbers yourself). Tys and Verbs are the only media i use now. With Tys being the best IMHO, but i really like the Verb 16x +R format also.
I found my drive produces better quality scans when i burn at 8x instead of 4x. Seems strange that burning slower would cause more errors, but now i burn most of my stuff at 8x.
Still waiting for the Verb/Ty 16x to hit here. Sounds like they will be my new favorite media once they start supplying the USA with them. Whats up with that? USA not good enough for Verb/Tys?? Im sure our market is much larger than all of europe... They probably have a supply issue, and decided to give europe all the stuff and let us suffer in the US. Bummer..

 

@maxburn

hi buddy, how'z it going?

i had to read that 3 times before it sunk in completely, i literally FELL oUTTA MY CHAIR laughing..my wife thinks i'm crazy..she rushed to my side asking me "what is so funny?"...LOTR, now THAT is a very witty comment and i'll take that as a compliment~ LOL

this is ALWAYS going to be a problem, i wouldn't be surprised if he got the SAME FAKE TAIYO YUDENS that i have in the past...seriously, the "made in taiwan" is a DEAD-GIVEAWAY...and the hub numbers are a double-whammy~

ALL TAIYO YUDEN media is MADE IN JAPAN, there is NO exception; yes, they have offices around the world, in the U.S., Canada, Taiwan, other asian countries, Europe, even Australia if i'm not mistaken...but to find and definitely GUARANTEE that a person got GENUINE TYs, they WILL be "made in japan"

lastly,

how long have i been preaching this to everyone? using Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim with the QUALITY burners out there these days, burning @4x is no longer a "necessity" if you want good backups/quality~

when everyone was recommending to ONLY burn everything @4x here on AfterDawn, WHO DO YOU THINK "stepped up" to give others a different opinion/approach to successful backups? using good quality media of course, i've always burned ALL my backups @8x with terrific results~

while i'm not "going against the grain" here per say, a LOT of issues on cheap/poor quality media can definitely be "fixed" or at least "helped" by burning slower...ie. 4x or even lower; but, this really DOES NOT "magically" resolve burning issues if people use high quality media~ there are many factors involved on individual setups that could result in a "coaster", but if you use Taiyo Yudens (genuine TYs), at least you have a strong foundation to work from to address your backup issues...

i pop into the nero forums once in awhile, but i find my niche' here in the dvd media more "comfy"

as creaky, our "TY Verbs" mod, with his "sexy" discs has always stated, (i'm going to imply his meaning by using my own words...sorry creaky buddy) we try here to keep people away from poor quality media by giving them examples after examples, thread after thread, problematic nero logs after nero logs of POOR media being the culprit in the resulting "coaster"...yes, other factors may add to the producing of a "coaster", BUT, if you start w/ crappy media to begin with, you might as well forget about "tweaking" everything else as the media will deteriorate and you will get skipping/freezing/pixellation/pauses/etc. sooner than later, why people bother to insist that "it's not my media, i've used this in the past with no problems..blah blah blah" is still a mystery to me.

i've read of some guys literally going out and spending hundreds if not thousands of dollars on a NeW computer, new burner, new hardware (more memory, bigger power supply *LOL the whole PSU thing is an inside joke for those that were involved in that particular thread awhile ago*, new software...but failed to use a "better quality media" with an outcome of "being back at square one again"... sometimes "i told you so" just doesn't add enough insult to injury~

high quality media is a very big part of the dvd burning process...without it, you begin "handicapped" compared to the next guy who IS burning successfully using good media~ i'm not here to promote spending MORE $$ for Taiyo Yudens; it's not like i get a red cent for every 'convert' i get to buy TYs, i'm here to help people understand and to spend their hard earned money accordingly on the "proper" choice media that you were going to spend money on ANYWAYS...but your resulting backups will be so much better in the long run

i'm here to clarify and to assist, not to deceive people into spending more and getting less~

i'll stop here, need a TY fix, gonna go burn something to make my night complete.

docTY~

 

Hi Doc, yes, i try to get those zingers in there when i can . When i saw the poster talking about rings on a disc and you responding about rings, that plus this is your thread,, i figured Lord of the Rings would be a funny compliment/joke at the same time. Im a Ty convert for life, as long as they keep producing the good stuff, and many of your posts convinced me Tys were the GOOD media. After using it, im convinced its the best, with Verbatim being very close behind them in quality, almost equal.
I jump around the forums. Sometimes i work on Nero logs and problems, and lately ive been spending more time in the safety valve area. Sometimes ya just want to give up when you either run in to a crazy poster, (more so than usual), or someone who refuses to listen, but still wants help. Same thing happens with problem media lovers. They post having a problem like failed burn, and media id comes back CMC or some other junk. Post back that they need to change media, and you will often get "It cant be this media, ive burned a spindle before with NO problems, has to be something else,, it must be that my drive is bad." They wont even try some different media, but insist on buying a new drive. Sometimes that fixes the problem for them, and they post back that they were correct all along, and we are the idiots for suggesting media could be the cause. Yeah, i shouldnt let these things get to me. But it often makes me take a pause from helping ppl.
[bold]TYS RULE!!! Go team TY.. YUDEN,, YUDEN,, YUDEN!!![/bold]

 

@Doc & MaxBurn

You guys know what happened to our buddy gear79? How come he's inactive now? Do you guys know what's the real story?

Just wondering that's all.

 

@alkohol

i believe it's for "personal issues" at home, not because our buddy gear was banned, he personally requested a mod (ddp) to make his account inactive...that's all i know...i'm sure he has his OWN reasons for this...and i respect his choice~ i will miss him, he's a good guy and always brought "a good laugh" to otherwise boring/typical threads~ if you are reading this gear79, just know that you will be missed by ME personally among MANY others here, but take your time and do what you need to do and if you come back in the future, do it on your OWN schedule and on your own accord~ best wishes to you buddy

@maxburn

been there, done that...i almost left AfterDawn awhile ago for that SAME REASON too...yes, everyone has the right to THEIR OWN OPINIONS, and they can do what they want with THEIR OWN $$, nobody is stopping them...i just don't like to get into these flame wars/arguin' for such a trivial topic...if these people suggest "they were right all along"..then why even bother asking a question on here? if they are SO SMART and KNOWLEDGEABLE about everything in dvd backups? isn't that kind of hypocritical of them? why ask for a "fix" if they could have done it on their own ALL ALONG? makes no sense to me

don't let it get to you buddy, i've had my fair share of stubborn a$$ people on here that aren't even OPEN to the idea of change, let alone doing something that someone suggests if THEY don't believe it will help~ people will be people..nothing anybody can do bout' dat.

docTy~

 

@Doc

Yeah, I don't blame him for leaving if it's for "personal life". I know exactly how he feels, I sure will miss him too. He's pretty funny at times, other than that, he's been a great buddy (friend) here at AD.

So gear79, if you're reading this, see you around/whenever you have everything settle down man. Best of luck to you buddy.