Official docTY Taiyo Yuden thread

I agree 110%. The PS2 forums could use someone with your knowledge of media. It's one thing when I say it, but when you and Doc say it, people tend to listen. My expertise is mainly in modchips and general PS2 stuff, I'm relatively new to the quality media, DVD movie backup aspect of DVD burning. I've always used good media, but I just did so because I was told to, not because I knew the reasons why. By talking to you, doc, ForknDave, Gear79, Andmerr, Alkohol, arniebear, and several others, I'm very confident that I have a good grasp of Media, firmware, burning software, ripping, and different burners. I've had nary a coaster because of bad media in months. So I must be doing something right. Cheers!

 

As you can see in my sig, Taiyo Yuden are one of the few brands I trust and use all the time.

 

DakotaFan,

My preferences in media is very similiar to yours. Although I do like TY's, I put them second to verbatims. I've had the best results with verbs. Never any freezing, pausing or pixelating with them where as I have had some very minor and seldom pausing issues with TY's. I would then go with sony followed by branded ritek ridata +r's. I never had real good results with G04 dvd-r's and have never tried any G05 dvd-r's. This of course is just my preference and opinion and what works best with my particular setup.

 

Yeah I can't speak to the reliability of TY's as far as movies are concerned. I can however say without any hesitation, that TY's are a better choice for Console reliablilty than Verb's. I've encountered more people who have problems with Verbs than TY's when it comes to PS2 backups. This is from my own personal experience and numerous threads in the PS2 forums. When there's issues with TY's and backing up PS2 games, it almost always comes down to user error.

 

Like doc, I would say TY is my favorite media with Verbatim being a close second. I haven't tried any MIJ Sony or Maxell media yet, but I'm sure I will at some time.

This is the media I have on hand at the moment:
8x DVD-R Taiyo Yuden (TYG02) - I'm very low on these. Only about 10 or so left. I need some more TY media. I wanna get the plus format, though. Great media!
16x DVD+R Verbatim (MCC004) - I bought a 50 pack of these on sale at Best Buy. I have around 35-40 left. Very good media.
8x DVD+R Ridata (R03) - I bought a 100 pack of these for real cheap at Supermediastore and have about 80-85 left. Pretty good media, but not great.

I burn all my media at 4x regardless of what the advertised speed is. I find this to be the best and most stable speed to burn at. I haven't had any problems since I've been burning at this speed.

 

Yeah I love the TYG02 8x DVD-R's. So far I've burned 130+ PS2 backups to TYG02 with 0 coasters. They're by far my favorite media. I also quite like the MIJ High Grade Maxell DVD+R's. I use these for my PS2 backups: http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-silver-thermal-8x-dvd-r-media-100.html

 

and thoses maxells MIJ will code out as Taiyo Yudens thats why there so good

 

@dabig

yes, most definitely it is OK to burn 16x TYs @8x, that's what i do myself actually

thanks Mort buddy for covering some of the other questions while i was away, been a hectic day today w/ a patient that barely pulled thru, stresses me out when a patients lifeline suddenly goes south and the friggin anesthesiologist hasn't a CLUE as to what he's doing and starts to panic~ i'm not blaming him, but, c'mon, surgery is a TEAM effort, every specialized physician is supposed to excel in their own particular field, we don't have room for errors, let alone little pansies that FREAK OUT when something goes unexpectedly wrong...

anyways, that's my little rant on a rather hectic day...now, back to media~

@gurnard

you will always be considered a trusted FRIEND in my book, don't let anyone's comments get to you regarding the media that you use...i for one will personally back you up ANYTIME if need be, just PM me and i'll do what i can...btw, i should try your "pancake" idea, just to test my burning prowess~ LOL

@bunnyrip

thanks for always giving me such kind and sincere support, keep up the good work yourself and burn on buddy~

@mort81

what can i say about you? i dunno, i give you credit for getting me into the whole "booktyping" thing from the very beginning...without YOUR KNOWLEDGE of firmwares, booktyping and media i would not be where i am now...thank you.~
i always value and respect your opinions here on AfterDawn, your ability to gently guide others in the right direction is very admirable...wish i could be like you...i don't wanna be like Mike, i wanna be like Mort81~!

@arniebear

once again, your knowledge and experience about seemingly EVERY aspect of dvd burning amazes me...i trust your opinions and would encourage others to do so too~ i've learned a great deal from you, so i would like to thank you for helping me and clarifing things for me from "way back in the dayz"

@tokijin

welcome to our little close knit media club here~ following the advice of the experienced members (mort81 and arniebear) you will not go wrong...i can honestly say they have even more experience than i do in this dvd burning game and i learned from some of the very best to become "known" here now~

not that i burn nearly as much as i used to, i would have a panic attack if my blank media supply was ever down to 225 LOL, we all have our "excessive" nature in life, mine happens to be media~

well, since the beginning of 2005, some VERY fortunate people have in fact received the YUDEN000T02s under the SILVER TDK 8x dvd+r spindles, naturally, made in japan...this was brought to my attention MONTHS ago, however, if you know my "feelings" towards TDK, that would explain why i never recommended them to anyone on here~ LOL it was not so much that i was "keeping this dirty lil secret" to myself, but moreso, not to mislead people into running out and stocking up on the MIJ TDKs 8x dvd+r with the false sense of knowledge ASSUMING they were going to get the YUDEN000T02s every time (the consistency of getting TY under TDK's branded 8x dvd+r is FAR FROM the % in your favor you would get YUDEN000T02s under the MIJ Fuji or Sony labels) i didn't feel it was "right" to misinform the masses about TDK because quite honestly, you would be VERY lucky to get those TYs under the TDK brand, more than likely, even on MIJ spindles you would get TDK002, which i HAVE tried and do not like very much...

i have also gotten the TYG02s made by Taiyo Yuden, MIJ spindle of TDK's 8x dvd-r too, this was a spindle given to me by a trusted dvd media collegue that i compare "notes" with on a weekly basis...he was checking with me to the authenticity of the TYs under the TDK brand and after i inspected them PERSONALLLY, they were in fact, genuine TYs~

so, as much as i bash TDK's on here, just remember..there is a REASON to my madness...it's basically a game of LUCK...the friend that gave me that spindle of TYG02s under the TDK brand thought to himself, "hey, if these MIJ TDk's are Taiyo Yuden produced, i should buy them up by the cartloads next time BestBuy/Circuit City have their TDK sale again"...which he DID, BUT, here's the kicker...out of the 10 (ten) 50-pack spindles of TDK 8x dvd-r MIJ on the wrapper, only 2 were the Taiyo Yuden made ones...the remaining 8 spindles were the TTG02 coded ones, which is insanely ironic as the TTG02 (which is TDk's own manufactured media, is MADE IN TAIWAN!!) he got the TTG02s under the "MIJ" on the spindle, now HOW MISLEADING IS THAT??? there wasn't a "MIJ sticker" over where the MIT label should have been, these were PRINTED "Made in Japan" right there on the TDK spindle paper insert (u know, the paper that goes around the discs inside the cakebox)

so, with that said, THAT is why i never recommend TDK's IF you are trying to find the Taiyo Yuden produced discs under a different "brand" name...my friend knows just as much about media as i do, he just comes directly to me regarding anything Taiyo Yuden related...but he's used media that even i have never tried before and that's why we compare "notes" when an obscure brand comes into the picture~

he doesn't despise TDk as much as i do, because after his "bad" experience with getting the TTG02 (which are made in taiwan) under the MIJ labelled spindles, he's burned quite a few successful backups that DO score pretty high on nero's cd-dvd speed quality tests, he uses different burners than i do, which is why i believe he's had much more success with TDK's own media than i have...

while he admits they are not as good as Taiyo Yuden's media, he's "ok with them" because he doesn't want to admit that he was SCAMMED on those MIJ spindles he bought so many of...LOL

but anyways, that's the "inside scoop" on TDK from me, you would not have found me reveal this in ANY other thread other than my own~

@johnman

the inherent problem with a "list" of dvd brands that use Taiyo Yuden as their manufacturer would be that it could CHANGE at a moment's notice...the manufacturers for dvd "brands" could change without anyone's knowledge overnight, and we as the consumer would be fooled...and people like me that try to "keep on top" of various brands that use TY made discs, would be reprimanded and condemned for giving out "false info"...

mort81 linked you to a fairly "accurate" list of possibilities, but it's ONLY a guide of what USED to be and what MIGHT be nowadays...it is in no way COMPLETELY accurate, as some "brands" have changed manufacturers since the time that "list" was made~ but, it's definitely a good start~!

your best bet to find Taiyo Yuden manufactured discs locally under various brands would be to use that list as a guideline and check frequently HERE at afterdawn in this dvd media forum where people add their experiences/purchases (what they bought and what they actually RECEIVED when ran thru a dvd identifier program) in here often~ as mort81 stated, at this present time, the "safer" bet would be the MIJ spindles of the Fuji 8x dvd-r/dvd+r and the Sony 8x dvd+r for the TYs (even though there HAVE been reports of people getting TYG02s in the Sony 8x dvd-r flavor, but not many a VERY RARE occurance, USUALLY people get the SONY08D1 in BOTH the MIT and MIJ spindles)

@dakotafan

good to see ya around, i like your sig. it pretty much "sums it all up" good choices you got there~

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whew, that was a long one, i hope i touched upon everyone that was nice enough to contribute to this thread, keep it coming guys, MANY members can learn a LOT with the great folks in here~

docTY~

 

@aabbccdd

actually, the "made in japan" Maxell's will ONLY be Taiyo Yuden made in the 4x flavor, in either format~

the 8x Maxell MIJ are made by Hitachi, which in MY opinion are VERY good media too~

sorry, didn't mean to correct ya, but, only in the 4x are the MIJ Maxells TY made (4x dvd-r is the TYG01 & the 4x dvd+r is the YUDEN000T01)

docTY~

 

right on !!!! thanks

 

Whew that's a ton of info Doc, thanks. It's cuz of posts like that I can stand against the kiddies in the PS2 forums with supreme confidence. My eyes are getting heavy, time to sleep, the sunlight... it burns... lol. Cheers!

 

I haven't tried any maxell yet but hear they are very good also. I use hub printable dvd+r's almost exclusively and the maxell's are too pricy. I can usually find the verbatim dvd+r hub printables at the best price of the three and I like the printable surface of the verbs better than the printable surface of the TY's.

 

Yeah I like the MIJ Maxell DVD+R's. I mainly like them because I can take advantage of booktyping/bitsetting. My burner supports it, but I rarely get the oppurtunity to use it. The auto booktyping with Nero is sweet. I might order them in bulk sometime. I can't find them locally, but I'm sure you can order them online from meritline.com or rima.com. Supermediastore.com doesn't carry the MIJ Naxell's as far as I know. Cheers!

 

hi DOC
yep got to go all the way with you on your guru's
i to was weaned on a mixture of the Arnie/Mort elixer
it's good to see the new experts still take notice of the old

 

@gurnard

i give credit where credit is due...

it's become a lot more "hectic" lately here on AfterDawn...some of the newbies/junior members are getting on my nerves, but, it comes with the territory i suppose~ "relevance" is in the eyes of the beholder i guess, what one might consider "helpful" to others it's pure blasphemy~ hehe

@tokijin

i try to be as "complete" with my responses as possible, i've written full page "mini-epics" in the past to ensure i got my point across~ and for those that actually READ it all in it's entirety, i commend you, takes a lot of patience for that...

good day to you all

docTY~

 

I know this is a little off topic, but has anyone seen what the Olympic Medals look like. They remind me of a DVD disk, they have a hole in the middle. At any rate Doc, I award you the Golden TY medal for contributions on media, you have beaten out the competition on getting the most recruits in your TY army for the best media.

 

No sweat... Being thorough, as you usually are, you DID implicitly state that your success was with the non-printable G05s. I can't say that I am disappointed because I bought them for one purpose: to test them... Like I said, I still have about 40 of the printable G05s left, about 300 printable TYs (both formats), and 100 or so printable Verbs (+R)... I can't consider $10 much of a loss. Especially for what I have probably saved by following the recommendations of the members here at AD before venturing out un-guided in my "Newbie" days...

 

Yeah I nosed around the local Wal-Mart, and it turns out they carry the Sony MIJ's and MIT's! I think I ended up with MIT's last time I went there, because I thought that's all they had. Nope. They definitely have the Sony MIJ's. They also restocked the High Grade Maxell MIJ's, so I picked up a 5 pack of those. The clerk said they carry them at Sam's Club, I'll have to check that out. It's expensive to pay $7 for a 5 pack, even for the MIJ 8x Maxell DVD+R's. Cheers!

 

I've been reading over these forums and now you got me curious whether or not my TY's are real or fake. I'm in Canada so my purchasing places are limited. Not much demand for TY here I guess. I buy hub printables TYG02 coded discs from blankmedia.ca and have not had problems but the stamp on the hub is not what you guys say it should be. here are some samples from different packs

GD517A208451GG
EG517A110227GG
4G521A204362GG
1K532A300079GG

Can I not see the GG00xxxx because it is hub printable? You have me concerned a litle now.

And thanks for letting me know that the verbatims are relly good but print better. I'll have to check those out. The last batch of Ritek G05 non-hub printable I got are a little different. They don't print as far to the edge or the middle and they have been giving me more problems on all my burners so I'm gonna try them Verb hub and non-hub

Thanks Guys
Afterdawn sweet as always

 

HELP PLESASE
Ok, Here's the deal. I've just received my first purchase of TY Media. I purchased a 100 pk of TYG02, 8x, -R. I've used several types of media in the past before deciding to make my first big purchase of TY's. I've used TDK -R, which nobody seems to recommend and I will not buy again, but they all play flawlessly. I've used Verbatim -R, MCC Code, also played flawlessly. Sony +R TY code, played flawlessly and JVC -RW, which plays flawlessly. I got ripped, price wise with my last purchase, the Sony's, paying 19.99 for 25 locally but I had to have them ASAP. That's when I decided that would never happen again and purchased 100 of these TY's online for a much better price. Well my first experience with these has left me with a big frown. My first burn was at 4x and the resulting video spits, sputters, pauses, whatever it's called from start to finish on my stand alone player. I then decided to try burning the same exact files with a JVC DVD-RW at 4x so that I wouldn't have a coaster if it didn't work. The JVC played flawlessly. On another attempt, hoping it wasn't the media. I burned another TY at 8x seeing if the change in recording speed would work. Same results, spit and sputter all the way through the video start to finish. Out of my first 2 disc of a 100 pack I have the same pausing, sputtering, stalling video and I'm sure it's the media because of trying the same burn on the JVC -RW playing perfect. If this matters, my stand alone players are Memorex and Apex. Same results with both of them. Never any compatibility problems before with -r +r or -RW media until I got these TY's. Also my burner is a Pioneer DVR-109XLC. Anybody got any ideas with this? Is it just an incompatibility issue between my stand alone players and the media? Do I have 98 blanks left that I can't use? If so, anybody want a good deal on 98 TYG02's, -R, 8x, haha. I really hope someone can help with this. I'm at a loss. Thanks.