It was a boring night...... nothing on TV except reruns and the ball game was already played during the day......... so I wanted to take out one of my DVDs and watch it blasting it on my surround sound system...... I came across a Denis Quaid movie, The Flight of the Phoenix. It's a remake but I only saw it maybe once! So I looked it up in my DVDProfiler program and took it out of Case 2, slot 403. To my unpleasant surprise I notice the old MEMOREX disk! I checked with DVDIdentifier and it's a nightmare, CMC MAGs. I tried the movie and it played just fine! I did this movie when it came out March 1, 2005 using DVDXCopy. So I decided to copy it to a Taiyo Yuden disk as I don't trust Memorex disks made by CMC MAGS. I ripped it to the hard drive and used DVDRemaker Pro to take out all the warning screens and menu and IT WOULDN'T PLAY! Now I've been doing this for a long time and I know how to use DVDRemaker Pro correctly.... I checked everything I did and still the final product wouldn't play from the hard drive using RealPlayer or PowerDVD or Media Player Classic. Something that DVDXCopy did to the movie made it unplayable if I took out the splash screen and warning screens and menu. sooooooo I said.... just use CloneDVD2 to copy MOVIE ONLY! And it wouldn't load! I deleted the Hard Drive copy and used the disk..... CloneDVD2 still wouldn't load the movie without AnyDVD running in the background! And so I tried again...... and it made the movie but now it wouldn't load the Taiyo Yuden disk into the burner saying, "THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM ON THE DISK TO COPY. DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE ANYWAY?" That was very strange. So I said yes and it started burning at .5X! the whole process would take over 2 hours!!!!!! I was amazed that an already burned DVD movie would give me such problems. then I decided to use DVDFab 5! And presto changoooooooo....... it worked like a charm. In 15mins I had my perfect copy of Movie Only on the Taiyo Yuden DVD+R, 8x disk! Now my question is....... Does DVDXCopy put encryptions on the disk to prevent copying? I never ran into any problem burning copies of already burned disks! Only this one. Any one else run into this?
I have sucessfully transfered movie copies made with DVDXCopy on TDK discs to TYs, also removing all the junk that DVDXCopy left/put in. I my experience, the times were 15-20 minutes using AnyDVD and CloneDVD2. No problems with the new copies. The older copy would only play on one of my DVD players. The others would tell me the disc was ditry, etc.
but I had no problem with my Memorex disk. Just didn't trust it to last........ And I tried CloneDVD2 alone since the movie was supposed to be already encryption free and I had to use AnyDVD to help CloneDVD along! It wouldn't do it by itself! Only DVDFab did the job without a problem!
DVDXCopy would add its own form of protection to prevent one from making copies of a copy. Their attempt to be legal. Therefore you had to use a decrypter such as AnyDVD or DVDFab along with a dvd copy/burning program.
I thought something along that way was happening! I really never had any problem every making a copy of a copy before!
no i don't think thats right DVD X Copy (the version i used) never had a so called copy protection built in to the the back ups. My guess Ivan is that the memorex backup would scan out very poorly is you did a nero quality scan? give that a try and see what you come out with. i re-backed up lots of older DVD X Copy back ups and never had that happen
I must clarify something, Zo. this DVD ripped fine. the ripped files play just fine....... but when I use DVDRemaker Pro to edit out the warning screens...... bingoooooo something happens to the DVD structure where it won't play because I took out the DVDXCopy warning screen! the result won't play! And I am an "expert" using DVDRemaker Pro. Been using that program since it came out! I never have a problem since I first started using it........ after I learned the ins and outs of DVD structure DVDRemaker Pro has been and always will be a great program to edit out things and make the DVD do what you want it to do. But that DVDXCopy warning screen seems to have done SOMETHING to the structure and makes it difficult to take out. CloneDVD2 should have done the job by itself, without AnyDVD in the background, but it failed! I had to use AnyDVD for it to work at all! And when I did it still didn't do the job, COPY MOVIE ONLY. the only one that did work was DVDFab Platinum and it did it fast and easy, in 15mins! I can't tell you what happened but I know know what to do...... just use DVDFab Platinum to reburn those old DVDXCopy disks! here is a picture of the disk: because of this the scan come out like crap: right before blemish at the blemish after blemish with this kind of results you would thing that the disk was not rippable! but it was .... and without diffictulty: notice no read errors! finished rip with NO READ ERRORS! FOR SUCH A POOR SCANNED MEMOREX DISK IT SURE WASN'T HARD TO RIP. Which proves my point. I couldn't redo the scan because i don't have much time.... I have to leave but you can see that the reburning of this movie was no problem with DVDFab Platinum! Other programs had the problem after the movie was ripped to the hard drive! go figure!
humm it must have been a compliance/file system issue with the memorex disc plus dvd x copy dvd then that dvdfab platinum was able to take care of. no surprise that the memorex disc didn't scan out good but it was at the end of the disc not the beginning when you were having the trouble so yes thats very weird
ZoSoIV, this article talks about the added copy protection plus other odds and end, re: DVDXCopy. http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/edwardbaig/2003-02-04-baig_x.htm/ Quoted from the atricle.... "....If you won't abide by the honor system, DVD X has implemented anti-piracy measures. The software prevents you from making a copy of a copy. Of course, nothing beyond time and effort stops you from repeatedly cloning the original DVD....."
What version of DVDRMP are you using? Did you blank or delete the warning screens? Where do these blocks reside - in VMG, VTSM, or VTS domain? If you can be specific, that will help narrow down the problem. Any warnings in the log or red highlighted items in the DVD tree? Have you run through the debugger to see if everything plays smoothly? I'm surprised none of the software players you mentioned will play at all. I don't think DVDXCopy has any protection on the DVD, so the warning screen is just any video data. You can rip via DVDDecrypter and see if the log says there's any protection. Even AnyDVD will tell you that. As for DVDFab Platinum, the movie only works. How 'bout the full disc mode? Either way, in full disc mode, there's no way to blank the warning screens, so it's not the same situation as DVDRMP.
@toaddub........ the point is moot! no there wasn't any warnings in the log or red highlighted items in the DVD tree. DVDDecrypter didn't show any type of encryptions on the copy.....AnyDVD didn't show that either but it just wouldn't ripp with just CloneDVD2 alone.... AnyDVD had to be running with CloneDVD2 to do the movie only but it ran into trouble! Regardless....... just the fact that DVDFab Platinum fixed everything and did the job perfectly the way I wanted it from the beginning! Sooooooo now I know..... if I want to make a new copy of my old DVDXCopy disks....... I will just use DVDFab Platinum, and be done with it!
