overclocking amd athalon 2800+

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  1. apollo21

    apollo21 Member

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    I have been reading up on overclocking my cpu and after a few years of debating it I finally did it. But I have found some issues with my system. Firstly, I am using the Gigabyte ga-7vt600 1394 mainboard aka k7 triton series with the f6 bios version. I am also using the GeForce FX 5200 video card and the AMD Athalon XP 2800+ processor with 1.5 gigs of Cl2 ddr (i believe its 2700 series) . Now origanally I was using the default settings for the cpu, etc (166fsb (i believe)and auto or disabled for everything else including the volts) and the system would lag and didn't seem to be operating efficiently (hence the decision to overclock). Additionally, I have been playing a game called Sword of the New World and the game play is choppy and slow. I read up on the specs for the game and my system not only meets the requirements it surpasses them with the exception of my Graphics card (which is one series behind the recommendation). Thus the goal was to overclock the cpu to get better game play.
    Currently I have managed to up the output of the System Bus to 182 MHz, AGP fqz 72, DRAM fqz 364, PCI fqz 36, CPU Volts 1.724, DRAM Volts 2.800, AGP Volts 1.800 and finally I have a psuedo stable system that is running at 2274.91 MHz.
    The problem is that I for some reason cannot go back to the original (default) settings and have a stable windows platform. I keeps rebooting. Not that I'm complaining about a system that will only work overclocked but I'm concerned about the health of my pc and I am wondering if there is anything that I should be doing differently to get better results or safer conditions.
     
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    Waymon3X6 Regular member

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    Dont even bother over clocking a AMD processor. You wont get much out of it, and you wont see whatever performance increase that you can get from it. I overclocked my P4 from 3.2Ghz to 3.8, and really cant tell a difference.

     
  3. Zer0ink

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    I'm not a big over clocker because i'd sooner just spend the few bucks for better equipment without the risk of frying something.

    The good thing is you got yourself some experience that others dont have.

    RE: "anything that I should be doing differently to get better results or safer conditions?"

    Can you not change it to at least less over clocked?
     
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    Well thats just it when I try to go back to the default speed windows doesn't start or i should say it starts but shortly there after (with in 2 min or so) it either freezes or auto restarts w/o a blue screen.
     
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    Maybe:


    You may have to reload OS ... XP takes a pic of PC and it thinks you loaded it then moved the the harddrive into another PC to get around lic issue
     
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    OIC. Well what about this game I'm playing any ideas why I'm having so much lag and choppiness. And what I can do to limit or erase the problem?
     
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    Well since your processor (or mine) isnt duel core, it will struggle to play newer games because it only has a single core. Duel core processors get twice the work done in half the time.
     
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    huh, well there is nothing I can do? I mean sometimes it works fine and other times it is terrible. Why is this?
     
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    Re: Duel core processors get twice the work done in half the time.

    True if youre running several programs..one doesnt have to stall to let the other one work but running a single game well thats just the slow speed making it choppy.

    better said "dual processors get twice the programs done in the same time as one program on a single core"

    program for program a dual isnt faster...but multitasking is getting done

    Sounds like something s overheating and causing the reboots ...like you said psuedo-stable


    myself would rebuild things to what they were ment to run unless you enjoy the challenge and you dont really need it running well

     
  10. jony218

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    For playing games the amd 2800 is fast enough, I also have a amd 2800 and at idle that baby puts out 64 celcius (which is pretty hot for a cpu). I have a amd 64 x2 4800 which puts out 39 at idle. My advice leave the amd 2800 as is unless you want to invest in heavy duty cooling for it. Your problem with slow game play is that GEforce FX 5200 (does the video card even have a fan? ) I owned a fx 5200 and that card was very low end even when it first came out, mine didn't have a fan on it.

    My amd 2800 with 512mb of ddr2100 memory has a ATI 9600 XT video card, and it can play with the bigboys. With games it's all about the video card.
    game wise there is no difference between the 2800 and my 4800. The only thing that the 4800 can do faster is convert dvd's to divx.

    The ATI 9600 xt I bought for about 60.00 usd and it can play every game I throw at it. Most of the latest games require that you have at the minimun a 2000 mhz cpu, your cpu fills the bill, you just have to upgrade the video card. You'll notice a big difference when you do.
     
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    I have a athlon XP-M 2800+, I run at 200 x 12 (2400MHz real speed) at 1.65 volts. No probs at all. I can even play crysis with it on mostly medium settings, I've even had fraps running with crysis although it really kills my frame rates.
    However like the guy above me said, your problem is your video card. If your going to overclock then the rest of your system must be up to scratch too if you want to see any real gains. Its like bolting a V8 fuel injection system onto a little lawn mower and expecting it to perform well.
     
  12. apollo21

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    Hey everyone,

    Merry x-mas. I decided to try the new processor approach. I am now running an ATI 9600 Pro in hopes to rectify my issues. I was playing that game sword of the New world with the new card and it was substantially better. But after a while I had to reinstall windows since there was a boot failure. Now windows is up and running better than ever but I keep getting a "3d device failed to initialize error type : 10001" when I try to play the game. I believe I have downloaded the most recent drivers for the card (Catalyst Control Center). But at this point I am pretty much up the creek with out a paddle. Any suggestions?
     
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    Correction I meant to say new video card.
     
  14. jony218

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    It's definitely a video card driver issue. I ran into them a couple of times, sometimes you need to downgrade the video card drivers. It's a trial and error procedure, but when you get the right drivers, you should be rid of the errors.

    Also you might want to try the omega drivers for the ati card's. They tweak the ati drivers
    http://www.omegadrivers.net/
     
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    I have had simalar issues with my ati card. What updating the drivers screwwed it up every time! Uninstall the drivers and re-install the origonal drivers! That should fix it!
     
  16. apollo21

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    Hey Gang,

    Its been a while since I've needed your 2 cents but alas I have returned to your cooperative intellect for guidance.
    Here's my problem...I just got me xbox 360 live subscription back up and running and i have been messing around with the NAT settings to reduce my lag issues (of which i have been having lots...of both issues and lag). Anyway, I decided to use my DMZ option (I'm using a belkin n1 wireless router on cable int). After setting it all up the xbox connection is perfect flawless untouchable...but my roommates and I all cannot use our pc internet. The pc's say that they are connected and have perfect internet but we can't pull up ne web pages etc. So the question is simple is there a way to rectify the loss of internet on the computers while still maintaining the DMZ settings i have in place. (I forgot to mention, this anomaly only occurs with the DMZ activated, i know b'cuz i trial and errored it by turning it on then checking internet availability on my pc-none and again with DMZ deactivated-internet worked). It is starting to look like to me that i will have to repeated change back and forth (what a pain). Let me know what you think. P.S. just so you know i have added the bungie suggested UDP 3074 and TCP 3074 suggested ports to the router's Firewall virtual servers section.
     

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