I know this question may have been submitted before. I could not find in previous threads. Which has better picture quality for high compression. Let's say for ex. King Kong , which is about 3 hrs. long. Which of these 2 programs, would you use ?
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> Which of these 2 programs, would you use ? < CloneDVD2 - and I would split the movie to two discs. This gives you a chance to pee or fetch new snacks/beer after 1.5 hours. And it will keep the original Quality, too.
Recode2 without deep analysis and AEC will give you the same resolt as clonedvd2. but if you use them, recode2 CAN NOT be beaten by any transcoder. i did king kong, main movie only, english audio only, cut all the end credits, came out great. Decrypter with anydvd/recode2 and copytodvd rules.
I agree, but I wanted him/her to see for his/herself... I use CloneDVD2 for 85%+ compression, and Recode2 for anything below 85% down to around 70% compression. Any more compression gets the DVD-RB w/ CCE treatment... My logic for not just using Recode2 instead of CloneDVD2 is the convenience of AnyDVD and CloneDVD2 handling every encryption everytime (and I bought it; may as well use it... LOL) From time to time a new title will need an AnyDVD update (which usually happens within 2 or 3 days) to be compatible with Recode2.
you are right, clonedvd2 with anydvd handle encryptions that recode2 can't but, even in those cases i rather go with Vobblanker/recode2.
no that i agree with it but, there is a thread on cdfreaks that puts recode2's picture quality above rebuilder's. i have use rebuilder with HC a few times, its quality is better than any transcoder outthere but, it just takes too long to do the job(5 to 6 hours), with my system. Recode2 gets very close to rebuilder's quality and it only takes 45 minutes, using deep analysis and AEC.
I average around three hours doing 3 passes on my system, plus, I usually run a batch process for two or more movies overnight, so, the longer time isn't much of an issue with me. Besides, there aren't that many movies that require enough compression for me to run them through DVD-RB.
elizerroj, is there a guide as to how I would use Vobblanker and Recode2 to do a backup? I did a search but had no luck.
I don't mean to offend anyone here but it's 2006 now and dual layer Verbatim disks can be bought for $2.00 each in 50 pack spindals. Why suffer quality loss at all by trying to compress 3 hour movies onto one single layer disk? At the very least, why don't you split the movie onto two single layer disks with CloneDVD or other backup software? Compressing to the degrees mentioned will give you a library of grainy, low quality backups that will look terrible when you upgrade to a high definition display using a high bandwidth cable connection!
okay Which would have better picture quality if doing a backup onto a dual layer disc ? With NO or little compression needed ?
At 0% compression, both programs should produce exact same picture quality as original, however, you should not need either program if no compression is needed. Here are my preffered methods of burning DL media (I only use Verbatim): 1. Rip in Iso Mode with DVD Decrypter Burn MDS file with DVD Decrypter or Imgburn *DVDD or Imgburn burn DL media better than any other program I have come across, AnyDVD may be needed for this method 2. Rip with DVDFab Decrypter Create Iso with Imgtool Classic Burn Iso with DVDD or Imgburn 3. Rip with DVDFab Decrypter Burn ripped files with Nero Burning ROM I rarely ever use method 3 if at all because (in my experience) Nero does not handle DL media very well. I use method 2 because I have not purchased AnyDVD, so far I have not come across a movie that I have not been able to back-up. Of course, method 1 is my first choice because the MDS file retains original information such as layer break. Hope this helps. edit: when burning onto a DL disc, compression will never be needed.
I think that I would give the edge to Clone, just because of the Preserve Menu option. For a DL disc. I want to do Movie Only but, keep both 5.1 & DTS audio options available.
Call me nuts but I would rather pay $6 to $8 bucks at Circuity City for a stack of 25 (8x)discs. Daul Layer discs just cost way too much. $2.00 a disc in a stack of 50 is $100 bucks.
@dabig25 If you pay for a DL disc, why not do the entire disc? I'm not trying to tell you how to do your back-ups, but with a DL disc, you can preserve all menus, extras, movie, audio tracks, subtitles, etc. at 100% quality. Using the methods I previously mentioned, you will get an exact 1:1 copy of the original (minus the encryptions). Again, if you want movie only, then by all means do so, but I just wanted to make sure that you realize you can get an exact copy of the entire disc without the need to delete anything and not have to give-up any picture quality what so ever.
everytime i see this topic, i ask. why would people compress or add more compression by keeping xtras and menus?. isn't it enough to see it once or twice in the original?. i'm a main movie only guy. which is why almost any software i use, do the job just fine, since the compression apply is minimal.
Backup the movie only but keep the menus. I don't like guessing where the chapter stops are if I want to go back or skip to a certain scene.
^^That's what I do... I even posted a fix that will increase compression to over 54% on King Kong and retain a fully functioning main menu [2.65MB]: http://rapidshare.de/files/16688470/King_Kong.zip.html As for DL discs, if I would get those, I would not backup a whole DVD. I would put 2+ movies per disc. The reason being that 99% of extras suck and I only watch a movie in English. There is no reason for the extra garbage on the disc. The reason for putting more than 1 DVD is that most movies are very small in size, especially Sony Movies. You can fit 3 movies on a DVD DL and not compress it at all!!! The only exception is memoirs of a Geisha, but even that is a small file size for a 2 1/2 hour movie...
Ebega I truely appreciate your suggestions. I just hate all the extra garbage these new movies have on them. I like to do " Movie Only", but keep multipule audio options. In my living room I have a Widescreen T.V., w/ a surround sound system & a DVD Player that has DTS capabilities. But my other 2 standalones don't have DTS capabilities. Also if a friend wanted to borrow a movie, I know they don't have players w/ DTS.
