i have the ES20, very nice bit of kit though haven't used it more than about 3 times (not actually one to watch tv myself) but it's great. My only gripe so far is the TV guide was (once) completely inaccurate, though i'm not sure if that's something to blame the Panasonic for, or if recorders in general (or even Freeview tuners within recorders) are to blame for this.