Playback problems

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  1. Cleese

    Cleese Member

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    Hi all,

    I just bought an Aopen 2412 Pro dvdburner ( + ) and had to spent days first to understand all the technicalities on the web on how to rip, shrink and burn your own dvd's.

    Now i followed all the different guides but neither my dvd+r or rw will play on my Panasonic RV32 standalone player, but they both run perfect on my lite-on pc dvd-player.

    My Panasonic says NO DISC, since it's all to technical for me i really wouldn't know if i ripped, shrinked or burnt the wrong way.

    What I did :

    1.Used Smartripper to rip a 5,41GB DvD ( dvd-5 or 9 ???? couldn't find which it is )
    2. Used DvDshrink103 to make it 3,65 GB, removed certain audio and subtitles
    3. Burnt the DvDR in Nero , using udf 1.2 in Nero and DvD-Rom
    4. Burnt the DvDRW in Nero but than with DvD-Video through the wizard.
    5. Burnt a DvD+R with Pinnacle Instant Copy

    Used another guide where u keep holding the 2 or 3 number on your remote for bit something, but nothing happened.

    Anyway after days of looking, reading , trying i really don't know what's wrong, hopefully someone knows.

    Thanks.
     
  2. herbsman

    herbsman Moderator Staff Member

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    [bold]Panasonic RV32:
    [/bold]http://www.dvdrhelp.com/dvdplayers.php?DVDname=Panasonic+RV32&Submit=Search&Search=Search

    [bold]My method
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    Smartripper
    DVD2One
    Nero
     
  3. herbsman

    herbsman Moderator Staff Member

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    [bold]This is a snippet from website mentioned above [/bold]http://www.dvdrhelp.com/

    Hi, I have this Panasonic RV 32, a Sony DRU500-A
    firmware (1.0g) DVD writer, Windows 2000 Professional, Pentium IV 2.4GHz, Maxtor 80GB ATA HD.
    My experience is the following:
    The player is unable to play DVD+RW due to the bitsetting incompatibility.
    The player works with any DVD-R or DVD-RW if you built an external image (with Cujo 1.6 SE software for example) and then burn it with nero as an external image. PAY ATTENTION ! Nero 5.5.10.15 makes coaster with this procedure, use 5.5.10.7 or below !!!
    The big problem I have with this player is that is VERY SENSITIVE TO THE MEDIA !!!
    I mean, you may be able to see correctly a movie for the first 40 mins but then it begins with pixelization and skipping and choppy video.
    I discovered that it depends on 2 factors:
    1. the media
    2. the label

    DO NOT LABEL ANY DVD

    About the media:

    1. Verbatim -R -RW excellent but expensive
    2. SKC -R -RW work well
    3. Fuji -R : pixelization & skips
    4. That's Write -R : pixelization & skips
    5. Princo -R: very cheap but "seem" to work well !

    In conclusion: I would have been more happy if with 200$ I would have a more "sensitive" DVD player

    I hope this helps
     
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  4. Cleese

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    I've seen this compability list dozens of times already thanks, I read all the posts and still have no clue, half of the people have no problem with my player, not even with RW's, but me, phoe, been trying and trying.
     
  5. herbsman

    herbsman Moderator Staff Member

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    Edited cos it wasn't this ...

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  6. Cleese

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    I used 3 different kinds of media :

    Philips
    TDK
    A-Open ( came with the burner )
     
  7. herbsman

    herbsman Moderator Staff Member

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    OK , that seems fairly good media so I'd maybe do what this guy did:

    Dear Ty,
    Thank you for your inquiry. We regret to inform you that our DVD players are not designed to have any modification. For further assistance should you need it, please contact the Panasonic Customer Call Center at (800) 211-7262. Any representative will be available to assist you Monday through Friday from 9 AM to 9 PM, and Weekends 10 AM to 7 PM Eastern Standard Time. Should it be necessary to send a reply; to ensure our prompt response, please mailto:consumerproducts@panasonic.com Please note; when responding, include or attach this message.

    Sincerely,
    Representative 13
    Panasonic Customer Call Center

    -----Original Message-----
    From: CustomerSupport [mailto:CustomerSupport]
    Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:29 PM
    To: Panasonic Consumer Products
    Subject: Customer Feedback

    Title: Mr.
    First Name : Ty
    Last Name : XXXXXX
    Telephone : na
    Address 1 :
    Address 2 :
    City :
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    Zip : 09056
    Email Address : tylast@yahoo.com
    Prd Family : Panasonic Video
    Prd Group : Video - Digital Video Disc (Dvd) Player
    Model Number : DVD-RV32S
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    Inquiry Type : Other
    Comments : When is the firmware update going to be released for download that allows the DVD player to play my own DVDs that I've burned. It seeks forever & most of the time does not play. Don't tell me to call, I did & that was NO help.
     
  8. Cleese

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    Mmm, won't be a big help e-mailing those guys, they support the - R standard anyway.
     
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    herbsman Moderator Staff Member

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    where does it say that ?
     
  10. Cleese

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    Been looking for it, can't find the link anymore, Panasonic, Apple, Pioneer and a few others are backing up the DVD-R/Rw standard.
     
  11. herbsman

    herbsman Moderator Staff Member

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    I burn with a Pioneer DVR DVD-RW a04/104

    Play on a Sony DVP-NS 305 (plays everything I ever put in it)

    I looked at the A Open spec on a site just now & can see NO obvious reasons why you are having these playback problems but DVD back up in general is a trial & error basis depending on what burner & player you/they are using.
     
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    herbsman Moderator Staff Member

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    DVD-R is WAY more supported.

    This was a deciding factor when I purchased the Pioneer 104...DVD+R (RW) has come on a little since then
     
  13. Cleese

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    Yeah ben there as well, sometimes you just don't know anymore, i do read some people make an image and than burn that image, what's the benefit ?

    I just use dvdschrink and then brun the video_ts files.

    Btw, thanks for your extremely fast replies.
     
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    The one difference between -R and +R that might be the deciding factor; DVD VCR's use the -R format. And I think that those of us who have an understanding of computers and still have some issues with DVD burning will see that a DVD burner that works just like a VCR will become a very popular product.
     
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    herbsman Moderator Staff Member

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    You could try ISO Mode [bold]Cleese[/bold] ...that's the image copy method you was reffering to.

    I should imagine DVD Decrypter would be good for that although it does write I'd be tempted to use Nero to burn ISO image

    -my two pennies worth anyway-

    [bold]ken0042 [/bold] nice signature : )
     
  16. Cleese

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    Would that make any difference than ??? Instead of burning the video-ts files, burning an Image ?

    I read about some special progs who make dvd images any suggestions, besides Nero than ?

    I'm also wondering if it would make a difference if i burn the DVD in Nero with 1,5 udf instead of 1,2 because when you look at the dvd+.org website it says RW is no problem for this player.
     
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    herbsman Moderator Staff Member

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    It's worth a try.

    DVD Decrypter supports read & write of ISO I believe (untried by me but I know it has that option)
    Nero will burn and ISO (again untried by me)
    Prassi Prismo (I had this bundled w/ my burner but never got it to work properly & gave up many moons ago BUT have heard from others that it does ISO Ok)

    Good Luck...
     
  18. Cleese

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    Hehe, solved the problem partially and just enjoyed my first DVD.

    Found it on the Aopen website, before burning a DVD+R i need to check the change book type option, with an already burned RW i can load the dvd into Nero and than Change the Book type into DVD-Rom, which i need.

    So finally after one week of misery the problem is solved, no I hope by checking the option a +R will work as well, than again, changing the RW disk was no problem but now i wouldn't know what to select in Nero when burning a +R, DVD-Video, DVD-Rom,....
     
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    : )

    Glad to hear you've had some kind of result at least...
     
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    Cleese,

    Happy to know u fix the problem.

    I am now also using Panasonic RV-32.
    My RV-32 also CANNOT play the DVD+RW or DVR+R !

    I just buy NEC ND-1100A, burn the DVD+, +RW using nero.

    DVD+ web site said that nero can set the book type
    http://www.dvdplusrw.org/resources/bitsettings_pc.html

    But I cannot find the book type setting in my nero software 5.5.10.15

    Where can you set the book type ?
    Thanks in advance.

    Benson

     

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