To my Knowledge, Nero only recently Introduced it, after a mass campaign, LG introduced their lastest firmware to allow their Multi drives to bitset. If book typing to ROM was necessary? Well it isn't, my Original point said that a book typed DVD+ disc could be. What Information? maximum compatibilty cannot be acheived yet and by default, nero tries to book type my disc. I never came here to offer anything except advice (That was asked) in what I beleive to be right. If it works for you then fine, if not, Ok!, what's the harm in that?. I never said I am right, I'm not, I don't think I am and that's fine!. You on the other hand babble incoherently, often repeating, misjudging the point, rude (Read the remarks he made - False) forcing your view oblivious to the Original post that brought up this. [bold]Don't flatter yourself there was ever an intellectual exchange?[/bold] Certainly a bold statement, since you seem hell bent on dictatorship? or a flat scenario. Your word isn't God neither is mine so don't flatter yourself either, English isn't my first Language.
Manu If you'll noctice, the freeware apps DVDshrink and DVDdecrypter have no bitsetting capability. Yet when you are done and you see the information on the screen from DVDdecrypter the physical booktype burned to the DVD denoted near the bottom says DVD-ROM. This is the default for the all the progems I use. Nero has had bitsetting capability for quite some time. It was being used on old Nec 1100s for -R compatability. Old news.
Incorrect, actually, If you take real notice, both these programs offer a Bitsetting capability. If someone can say otherwise about this I stand Seriously Corrected! In Shrink: If you look at the Backup tab, then use your burner as the target, Burn Settings, You will find this option: Book type DVD-ROM, this is the program attempting bitsetting (Burner permitting). If on the other hand like you mention, are finding your Disc's (Only plus media is capable of the DVD ROM book type by specification) then your burner is automatically booktyping DVD-ROM by default or perhaps a firmware.
I am not a stupid person but I am stupid when it comes to DVD types. I bought a 25 pack of Maxell DVD-r 4x. Out of the 25 I got 2 good burns. Before that I had bought a 25 pk of Memorex DVD+R 4x and out of the 25 I got 25 coasters. I used the same DVD software on both Apollo DVD Copy. I take it it is not the software but the media?
The Nec 1100s are +R and were originally booktyped to -R for compatability. Now the default is DVD-ROM. No modification to settings necessary. All 6 of my drives burn DVD-ROM booktype with any combination of programs I use. You have to look pretty hard for a player sold now that isn't going to play all the formats. This make any additional discussion about booktype compatibility moot.
Egypt322 The DVDs you have used are not my first choice, but the failure rate is more likely to be related to software. You might try a free setup like DVDShrink with DVDdecypter to test the setup. Intervideo DVDcopy3 also has a fully functional demo that does a good job.
Donald How does that old saying go, "don't argue with fools or they'll pull you down to their level and beat you to death with foolishness"? The DVDCopy3 is a great program and a good trial to check out. All you need is a ripper. The program encodes and burns and the interface is intuitive and easy to use.
Hey Brobear & Donald, I'm back, un-muted and with an apology. Bro, I read your messages and realized that I wasn't thinking clearly about my issue with the "2X, 4X for data" issue. So, I did some experimenting. I updated my drivers, enabled DMA (I actually moved the drive over to a different computer, since I couldn't seem to enable DMA on the current machine) and lo & behold - the Ridata discs now burn at 4X! So, I stand corrected - a victim of my own hasty & false assumptions. Thanks for taking the time to read my posts and analyze them so thoroughly. You, and Donald, were correct. The discs are fine, it was a hardware issue, with a little "operator error" thrown in too! Thanks again for your help. Joe D.
joedrumma You're welcome. The more you putter around with recording media, the more you learn. It's a learning experience for everyone. No one started out knowing all there is about DVD recording. I'm still learning myself.
I also got a bad batch of Ritek G04's the printable ones. This is not the first time I've used riteks/ridata because I've used over 200 Ritek dvd's before. This batch was pretty damn awful. I had to do so many burns that I didn't have time to check the dvd's out because well about 99.9999999% of the time when you burn a disc and store it away and keep it free of lint or scratches it's supposed to be alright. Well after going back and watching some movies later I notice that near the end or in the middle of the disc the movie stops and gets a disc error in every dvd rom I tried. There is no scratches on the disc and I can't extract them at all because they have uncorrectable errors. Now I'm pissed because I don't have those image files anymore and now There is a lot of movies I got no idea what happened at the end. I currently bought a batch of prodisc ,because prior to the last ridatas I bought the thermal printable prodiscs were very good with no errors and if they get a scratch they still play without being picky.
Can you give the full ID for the Media. It would be good to know what we are dealing with. I have used quite a few Ritek printables without incident. Although I did have to flash my older drives once for compatabilty.
here is what dvd identifer gives me for media code: ** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Control Data Zone'-Block Listed Below ** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'CDZ'-Block Discarded ** INFO : Format 10h - Format Information Of Control Data Zone 0000 : 25 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 12 7f 00 00 00 00 %........&...... ** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Media Code'-Block Listed Below ** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'Media Code'-Block Discarded ** INFO : Format 0Eh - Pre-Recorded Information In Lead-In 0000 : 01 40 c1 fd 9e d8 52 00 02 96 0e 14 88 9a 80 00 .@....R......... 0010 : 03 52 49 54 45 4b 47 00 04 30 34 00 00 00 00 00 .RITEKG..04..... 0020 : 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 06 08 12 11 86 67 80 00 .............g.. 0030 : 07 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 08 06 19 0a 0b 09 01 00 ................ 0040 : 09 99 05 0c 0b 80 00 00 0a 00 00 00 00 00 10 00 ................ 0050 : 0b 04 1d 18 a8 88 85 00 0c 89 ac 88 80 00 00 00 ................ 0060 : 0d 00 00 d0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ............ * These are the printable ridata Ritek G04's I've been talking about.
Nick1981 Did you check with your vendor's sales support? Ritek has a good guarantee. Usually it is no problem to get bad media replaced. Any manufacturer can have a bad run on a batch of media, including Ritek.
I have the pionner a06 with firmware 1.7 . I did try the 1.8 firmware but then all my 2x dvd-rs could only be burned at 1x so I went back to fm 1.7 I emailed ritek and told them which store I bought the discs from and how much I paid and how many were screwed up. I'm still waiting on them to email me back.
To date the only disks that seem to work for my burner are the Memorex DVD+RW and TDK+RW. I have tried just about all the types the stores in my area carry. I have lots of coasters. Now on burning problems with the new guards out? Super DVD Copy, plus the DVDshrinker to burn. Otherwise I just use CloneDVD 2 for them along with AnyDVD. But remember that AnyDVD does not work with the new movies protection. SO if you want to copy The new Resident Evil or The Forgotten or The little black book try SUper DVD Copy and DVD shrinker.
Egypt322 Would you explain why AnyDVD was among the first, if not the first, to break the new encryption systems and also updates the program as any new encryption comes along. DVD Decrypter has been kept up to date as well. I'm interested in knowing why I was able to record all the movies you mentioned using AnyDVD. Interesting that I and a large number of other forum members were able to do it where you say it wouldn't work. Sounds like you need to post in a hardware section instead of a media thread. It's a strange PC burner that is limited strictly to a +RW disc sold only by TDK and Memorex.
I bought 100 GQ DVDs a couple of weeks ago, for an after-rebate price of $19, making my cost $0.19 per DVD. They aren't worth that much. After burning through over 20 of them using various software, not a single one has burned successfully all the way to the end and then been playable all the way to the end. I've used products from other manufacturers with no problem - Sony, Fuji, Memorex. These DVDs have SERIOUS quality control problems. They seem to be usable near the center of the DVD, but about 1/2 to 3/4 of the way out, they just break down completely. I may be able to get some use out of them to backup small amounts of data, though I'm not sure I trust them even for that. Bottom line, stay away from this brand. "GQ" stands for Garbage Quality in my book. Burnt with Memorex DVD+RW/+R External at 4x Burning reliability is Poor. PC reliability is Poor. DVD reliability is Poor. Media color is Black. Media text is DVD-R2 K-403M4A06 1-1-2 0408012326- 23433. Media package type is Cake Box. Number of discs 50. Media made in Taiwan. Media UPC/EAN code is 3906928.
Dear GQ quality user sorry you bought crap media atleast you did'nt spend to much for it - with most of your large electronics/computer stores selling name brand- Branded media at prices of .50 cents and under it pays to shop local - I recently picked up two packs of TDK dvd-r 2x media 15ct. ea. for 2.99 each granted 2x media will burn slow but for 20 cents a piece I can deal. I'm not saying you should buy 2x media I'm illustrating a point. You could alternatively shop NEWEGG.COm or Rima.com ect. as these two companies are rated highly & often have sales . Also perhaps this media was just not compatable with your burner here are some cdes for GQ mediaGQ (Great Quality) DVD+R 4x (AML-001-000) GQ (Great Quality) DVD+R 4x (MEDIA ID001) GQ (Great Quality) DVD+R 8x (OPTODISCOR8) GQ (Great Quality) DVD+R 8x (PRODISCR03) GQ (Great Quality) DVD+RW 2.4x (INFODISCA01) GQ (Great Quality) DVD-R 4x (LEADDATA01..) GQ (Great Quality) DVD-R 4x (PRINCO......) GQ (Great Quality) DVD-R 8x (TYG02) ??FAKE?? I'm not knocking you I've bought off brand media too and learned not to . hope all your new burns are perfect and your error count is zero! = Peace & gooday
