Problem playing DVD's recorded with DVD shrink

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  1. Codeman01

    Codeman01 Member

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    To garyt, this is simply a media compatability problem as I explained previously. It works when you put it into another dvd player because it is more compatable with that one than the other one. To solve the problem you need a better quality disc that uses a more compatable dye so it will work on most players. The best I found is Datawrite TITANIUM dvd-r. I burn these using dvd shrink 3.2 at 8x and I do not have any problems playing them on many dvd players. The best way to see if its a compatability problem with your dvd player is test it on your PC dvd rom, if it works on this but stops or freezes on your dvd player then it is a problem with the disc you are using. E-mail Datawrite and ask them where you can purchase thier Titanium discs from. I live in the UK and this is what I did and they e-mailed me the site to order them from. Life is now good!
     
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    @ n0v0n
    every rule has an ecxeption...

    Possibilty but every exception tends to have sub-rules and requirements
     
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    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    @Codeman01 -

    glad you're having good success with Datawrite. i found them to be awful (ie subpar) regardless of dye used, and have tried various different types of them. They're the same price as top notch Verbatim / TY discs

    svp sells them - http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk/acatalog/dvd-rnoprint.html and i think ebuyer does too though i won't buy media from ebuyer again as they were selling FAKE TY discs (Bulkpaq Orange)
     
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  4. Codeman01

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    @creaky. I also buy them from svp. You failed to tell me you used Titanium. I say this because the other datawrite discs are crap but the titanium ones are the only ones that work well. Did you try the titanium ones?
     
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    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    sorry, wasn't clear enough. no, haven't used Titanium, i vowed to not trust any Darawrite again. I only use Verbatim and a few TY, and just bought 500 of the newfangled 'Verbatim TY' discs which are cheaper than most other discs. Am dipping my toe into trying some Ritek G05's, as a few of the other regulars have had great success with them. Other than those types, i don't buy anything else anymore. i wasted far too much money on cheaper media before so am paranoid about trying names that have let me down before
     
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  6. Codeman01

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    @creaky. You have let yourself down. Did you not read my previous message dated 10 september @ 11:07. You said you tried datawrite and they were not good but I clearly specified to use TITANIUM discs. Also in my previous message read what i said about Ritec G05 discs.
     
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  7. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    hey-ho. i reply to lots of posts and don't always re-read them :)
     
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  8. n0v0n

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    colw:
    ...and so on...with the exceptions 8>)


    n0v0n
    every rule has an exception...
     
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  9. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    @garyt - let us know what burning program you use as there are setting that probably just need tweaking. changing media (or a new burner even) is only one part of the puzzle and it's always necessary to check/correct setting for continued success
     
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    Hi Codeman

    It does not matter which dvd player I put it in the disk will freeze.

    However, if I take the disk out and wait a few minutes I can put it back in the same player, forward it to the spot where it started skipping and it will work fine for about 30 minutes.

     
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    CODEMAN01:
    I know you seem confident, but how long have you used those discs. I did massive research that led me to Ritek disks, no labels, and slow record speeds. I used dvdshrink, recorded with dvd copy. All disks worked when recorded, for nearly 6 months. Now I would say 90% of those disks now freeze using the same player. Disks that would work fine in the dvd-rom but not on the dvd player, now, through time, also freeze on my dvd-rom. Now I know you'll tell me the obvious bad media scenario, but have your Datawrite TITANIUM been time tested?

    More importantly. Does anyone have a solution to the half-way-through-a-movie freeze?
     
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  12. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    @garyt - still waiting for the name of the burning program you use. we can get to the bottom of this with more info

    @Codeman01 - am still puzzled to your statement "@creaky. You have let yourself down" - a strange comment from someone's first post on this site.. plus good to see someone who's having good luck with CMC, it's the most foul stuff there is but great if you like it.

    @booondox - as i mentioned to garyt, "the most common cause(s) of that is too high a burn speed and/or crappy quality media...". give us more to go on and we can get you sorted
     
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  13. Codeman01

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    @creaky I said that because I specifically said Datawrite TITANIUM are very good and only the TITANIUM range. You then replied "i found them to be awful (ie subpar) regardless of dye used, and have tried various different types of them", but you have not tried TITANIUM. So I feel you are letting yourself down because you have thrown in the towel before trying the best ones. The Titanium range utilizes superb premium organic dye that ensures stable writing with excellent quality such as TTH02. It Guarantees the data life on the disc to last for 10 years.
    I have discs I burned a year ago using titanium discs and they still work great. You must make sure you have the latest Firmware for your burner and you use a good name burner. I use a Pioneer dvr109 burner, also if you get dirt, dust, scratches or fingerprints on the underside of your discs this will cause read problems. But I will now ask the most important question of them all - When was the last time anybody on this forum with these problems used a laser lens cleaner. They are recomended to be used after every 10 hours of play. Ps: Sorry, but when I start writting I just can't stop!!

     
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  14. booondox

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    here is Booondox "more to go on" - thanks for the help by the way.

    Media: RiData G04
    Burner: NEC 1300A
    Sys: XP SP2 (although burned throughout sp's) athlon 1500
    burn speed: tried 1, 2, 2.4, and 4 - ALL WORKED at first, 85% ended up BAD
    Radeon 7000 graphics card.
    Pioneer dv-340 DVD player and I've tried a few others that I don't know the name of (friends and neighbors).
     
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  15. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    @Codeman01 - apart from my own dealings with bad media when i first got into dvd burning, i have no problems with ripping/burning/most computer things so help out here all the more, mainly dealing with other people's bad media woes. I have dealt with literally 1000s of people here afflicted with bad media/lesser quality media and you would not believe how wound up i get with bad/lesser quality media!. Thus i am all the more wary of lesser media as time goes on. I now religiously stick to Verbatim Datalifeplus, TY, and now the latest Verbatim TY (and 50 Ritek G05's as a few buddies round here go on about them so much). But that's all i'll use, as per my siggy, no other media comes near my PC :)

    (However i read up more than most on media so that i at least get to try and keep up with what's hot and what's not - i won't waste my own money when there's 1000s of guinea pigs buying other media lol). Anyway, only last night i was recopying from some discs someone sent me that are Princo. and lo and behold i got some CRC errors. Argh i hate bad media (he knows how i hate bad media so deliberately put them on Princo and he knew i'd recopy them anyway).

    when i first got into dvd burning, the discs were literally 500 Bulkpaq Orange disks which burnt 100% and were watched 100% without problem. However i then started having problems with newer batches of the same exact discs, and found they were crap quality, and fakes of TY media code to boot. So i am incredibly paranoid about discs which is very odd as i burnt untold 1000s of cd's over the years on untold different media, most of which i still have. The Bulkpaq's have the honour of being shamed in both links in my signature.
    So there's some reasons why i won't go near Datawrite again, or other 'lesser' quality media. when i get talking about media i can't stop lol :)


    @booondox - i don't think i've used dvdcopy before. don't suppose it generates logfiles does it, ie similar to Nero where we can go thru your settings. One thing you could do is download Nero's info-tool (free) and provide the huge logfile that it generates...
     
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  16. n0v0n

    n0v0n Guest

    Does anybody know of a list of WHOS´s WHO in the DVD & CD manufacturing business?

    Who manufactures MEMOREX, or all the other DVDs & CDs.
    Who manufactures the DVDs for COMPUSA, etc.
    I know that 90% of them are manufactured over ``there´´., but who´s the manufacturer.
    Most DVDs I use are MEMOREX and I don´t really know if they are good or bad...they work.
     
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  17. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    @n0v0n -

    i'll have a stab at answering this one..the trouble with people like Memorex is they use widely varying quality in disc manufacturers, the most appalling being CMC Magnetics (hence the media code 'CMC Mag'). Memorex aren't the only ones who do this, others are HP, TDK, Imation etc.

    snippet from a good list here - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/155431 (media codes in brackets) -

    Memorex DVD+R 16X (CMCMAG M01)
    Memorex DVD+R 4x (CMC MAG.F01)
    Memorex DVD+R 4x (MBIPG101-R03-000)
    Memorex DVD+R 4x (RICOHJPNR01)
    Memorex DVD+R 4x Printable (MCC-003-000)
    Memorex DVD+R 8X (CMC MAG E01)
    Memorex DVD+R 8X (PHILIPSC08)
    Memorex DVD+R 8X (PRODISCR03)
    Memorex DVD+RW 2.4x (CMC MAG.W01)
    Memorex DVD+RW 2.4x (INFODISCA01)
    Memorex DVD+RW 2.4x (RICOHJPNW01)
    Memorex DVD+RW 4x (CMC MAG.W02)
    Memorex DVD+RW 4x (MKM-A02)
    Memorex DVD+RW 4x (RICOHJPNW11)
    Memorex DVD-R 2x (CMC MAG.....)
    Memorex DVD-R 2x (TAIYOYUDEN..)
    Memorex DVD-R 4x (CMC MAG. AF1)
    Memorex DVD-R 4x (MBI 01RG20)
    Memorex DVD-R 4x (MCC 01RG20)
    Memorex DVD-R 4x (ProdiscS03)
    Memorex DVD-R 8X (CMC MAG AE1)
    Memorex DVD-RW 1x (ProdiscDVDRW)
    Memorex DVD-RW 2x (RITEKW01) MINI DVD-RW 1.36GB
    Memorex DVD-RW 2x (RITEKW01....)
    Memorex DVD-RW 2x (TDK502sakuM3)
    MemorexDVD-RAM 2x (Optodisc)


    So....for instance, in that list there are 3 varieties of +R 8x (none of which i'd say are any good really)

    Memorex DVD+R 8X (CMC MAG E01)
    Memorex DVD+R 8X (PHILIPSC08)
    Memorex DVD+R 8X (PRODISCR03)


    and here...all i'd say where any good are the MCC coded ones -

    Memorex DVD-R 4x (CMC MAG. AF1)
    Memorex DVD-R 4x (MBI 01RG20)
    Memorex DVD-R 4x (MCC 01RG20)
    Memorex DVD-R 4x (ProdiscS03)


    The trouble is, you wouldn't know which ones you're gonna get, just buy picking up a pack of Memorex. And that's part of the reason why so many people have problems with them, they see the name Memorex, associate it with quality cassettes (for instance) in the dim distant past etc etc, and it's the luck of the draw as to what disc manufacturer actually made them. Hence why i won't buy Memorex, HP, TDK, Imation etc etc etc. There are ways with some companies discs, to work out which ones you're gonna get, ie what sort of tubs they're in, are they -R, what speed are particular discs etc etc but most people on the street just haven't got that knowledge and just don't care about all that. I have feet in both camps, i need to have knowledge of media, but i just want media to work, and work consistently and for good :)

    ...so i am very particular about what i spend my money on, and what i recommend to others.. see my sig for more bad media woes if you like..

    Hope that helps a bit...

    Have added Imation as we use them at work and some of them are atrocious -

    Imation DVD+R 2.4x (RICOHJPNR00)
    Imation DVD+R 4x (CMC MAG.F01)
    Imation DVD+R 4x (RICOHJPNR01)
    Imation DVD+RW 2.4x (CMC MAG.W01)
    Imation DVD+RW 2.4x (RICOHJPNW01)
    Imation DVD+RW 4x (RICOHJPNW11)
    Imation DVD-R 1x (RITEKG03....)
    Imation DVD-RW 1x (OPTODISCK001)

    (in fact Imation feature in the 2nd link im my sig)..
     
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  18. n0v0n

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    WOW!! helped alot. Thanks.
    I have to confess...I was not aware of all this quality stuff.
     
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  19. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    @n0v0n - you're welcome. I'm no media expert, but bad media is one of my pet hates. If there was less bad media out there there would be an awful lot less threads needed :)

    and as i replied further up the page
     
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  20. n0v0n

    n0v0n Guest

    @creaky

    So what do U recomend?
    SONY
    VERBATIM
    TEAK
    etc...

    appreciate a suggestion

    n0v0n
     
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